[Noisebridge-discuss] Broken Stove

[Jeffrey Carl Faden]

Don't feel too bad, Ronald. No one should be depending on the stove, and if
it's unsafe to use, it shouldn't be used. I think you did the right thing
considering the risks. I just hope no one goes through the trouble to undo
your work and bring it back online without making the proper repairs or
replacements first.

Jeffrey


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just got off the phone regarding the stove with a community member who
> uses the stove.  I had originally decided to not do anything other than say
> maybe we should just use half the stove.  Then I took a closer look and
> said NOPE that isn't a good idea to leave this running.  I then disabled
> it.  It was a much longer than necessary conversation.  This person also
> knew of the issues at least on saturday and did nothing to resolve it (fix
> it, disable it, call someone).   I think we need to spend some more time
> with the community and teaching the community standards of Doocracy and be
> excellent.  I was a little un excellent in handling this situation.  I need
> to work on that.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also please be aware, if you do not agree with my assessment, you can
>> doocratically hook up the stove again.  I would really hate to see someone
>> get injured or anything else bad to happen in the space.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The removal portion of it was not really related to this email.  It was
>>> more informing that I doocratically disabled it, due to the hazard of using
>>> it.  What we choose to do can be decided at Tuesday's meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ronald,
>>>>
>>>> Not doubting that.
>>>>
>>>> I was simply stating what I understood from the inspector, as I spoke
>>>> to him directly during his visit. I'm trying to minimize misspent effort on
>>>> repairing something that will almost certainly have to be removed.
>>>>
>>>> -John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry that was snarky.  What I mean to say is that when a conductive
>>>>> liquid hits wires (in this case a heating element with lots of power
>>>>> running through it), it can cause a short.  Ditto with the control circuit.
>>>>>  Even if somewhere was to not get hurt by electrocution or a fire being
>>>>> started, it could damage the stove further.  Is that excellent to the users
>>>>> of the stove?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you look at the picture?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:35 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ronald,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought the inspector said the cook-top had to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would appear that the tempered glass on top of the stove has
>>>>>>>> been broken.  The way in which it is broken means liquids can easily get to
>>>>>>>> the heating element and the circuit board that controls the stove.  We will
>>>>>>>> either need to replace the top glass with a new one, get a different stove
>>>>>>>> or take it out altogether.  In the short term, I have disabled the circuit
>>>>>>>> breaker, put up a few signs with my phone number and finally Sid made it so
>>>>>>>> that the stove can't just be turned on by flipping the circuit breaker.
>>>>>>>>  This is a pretty major safety hazard right now and we should deal with
>>>>>>>> this along with the building inspector stuff post haste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>> Systems Engineer
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>>> Ronald Cotoni
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