[Noisebridge-discuss] Broken Stove

Tue Apr 22 00:14:23 UTC 2014

TBQH it doesn't matter who did it just how we deal with it.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:

>  Not me. I said I'd be assessing the state of the kitchen for one week
> starting today, and that if it was a hazard on average, it would be fixed
> with a sledge hammer. I was cautiously optimistic to hear that people were
> working on cleaning it up. Also, a sledge hammer would have made a much
> bigger hole.
> --D
>
>
> On 4/21/14, 7:48 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden wrote:
>
> By the way, this looks like it's possibly the work of davidfine.
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-April/044036.html
>
>  Jeffrey
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Don't feel too bad, Ronald. No one should be depending on the stove, and
>> if it's unsafe to use, it shouldn't be used. I think you did the right
>> thing considering the risks. I just hope no one goes through the trouble to
>> undo your work and bring it back online without making the proper repairs
>> or replacements first.
>>
>>  Jeffrey
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just got off the phone regarding the stove with a community member who
>>> uses the stove.  I had originally decided to not do anything other than say
>>> maybe we should just use half the stove.  Then I took a closer look and
>>> said NOPE that isn't a good idea to leave this running.  I then disabled
>>> it.  It was a much longer than necessary conversation.  This person also
>>> knew of the issues at least on saturday and did nothing to resolve it (fix
>>> it, disable it, call someone).   I think we need to spend some more time
>>> with the community and teaching the community standards of Doocracy and be
>>> excellent.  I was a little un excellent in handling this situation.  I need
>>> to work on that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also please be aware, if you do not agree with my assessment, you can
>>>> doocratically hook up the stove again.  I would really hate to see someone
>>>> get injured or anything else bad to happen in the space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The removal portion of it was not really related to this email.  It
>>>>> was more informing that I doocratically disabled it, due to the hazard of
>>>>> using it.  What we choose to do can be decided at Tuesday's meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Ronald,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Not doubting that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I was simply stating what I understood from the inspector, as I
>>>>>> spoke to him directly during his visit. I'm trying to minimize misspent
>>>>>> effort on repairing something that will almost certainly have to be removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry that was snarky.  What I mean to say is that when a conductive
>>>>>>> liquid hits wires (in this case a heating element with lots of power
>>>>>>> running through it), it can cause a short.  Ditto with the control circuit.
>>>>>>>  Even if somewhere was to not get hurt by electrocution or a fire being
>>>>>>> started, it could damage the stove further.  Is that excellent to the users
>>>>>>> of the stove?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you look at the picture?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:35 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Ronald,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I thought the inspector said the cook-top had to go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  -John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  It would appear that the tempered glass on top of the stove has
>>>>>>>>>> been broken.  The way in which it is broken means liquids can easily get to
>>>>>>>>>> the heating element and the circuit board that controls the stove.  We will
>>>>>>>>>> either need to replace the top glass with a new one, get a different stove
>>>>>>>>>> or take it out altogether.  In the short term, I have disabled the circuit
>>>>>>>>>> breaker, put up a few signs with my phone number and finally Sid made it so
>>>>>>>>>> that the stove can't just be turned on by flipping the circuit breaker.
>>>>>>>>>>  This is a pretty major safety hazard right now and we should deal with
>>>>>>>>>> this along with the building inspector stuff post haste.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>
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