[Noisebridge-discuss] 2 sleepers this morning

[Al Sweigart]

Much as Noisebridgers don't want to air our dirty laundry, people sleeping
and/or squatting at Noisebridge has been a constant problem for the last
several years. Because consensus makes it impossible for us to establish
sleeping as forbidden, okay, or okay under some circumstances (there will
always be one person to block the proposal either way), there hasn't been
any effective resolution.

The usual cycle is: some people start crashing at Noisebridge, more people
start crashing at Noisebridge, people start living at Noisebridge, it
becomes a problem too large to ignore and people crack down and tell people
to stop squatting at Noisebridge, then some people start crashing at
Noisebridge.

It's pretty much always the same few people using Noisebridge as their
bedroom, so don't think that everyone is treating the space as a commune.

-Al


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Justin Hasuike <jwcalmus at gmail.com> wrote:

> To be honest, I was interested in the hackerspace and subscribed
> accordingly to see what's going on before stopping by to check it out.
> Thanks for clarifying Romy, seemed a little awkward :)
>
> -Justin
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>> I hope people reading the list don't think the people at noise bridge
>> argue over semantics like this 100% of the time .
>>
>>
>> When we aren't fleeing tech talks we actually hack.. This discussion is
>> maybe 1% of the real activity that goes on
>> ----
>>
>> Snowyla.com
>>  Romyilano.com
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "It" refers to objects, not people, so pretending you have some
>> grammatical high-ground here is ludicrous.
>>
>> Not to mention, we use "they" singularly all the time in our language,
>> and have since Shakespeare.  Since before Shakespeare.  Since *Chaucer.*
>>
>> Imagine that sentence without the dehumanizing "it": "Male or female
>> THEY should be gone."  Hardly going to destroy the English language.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> No-hat aka Josh was out of town over the holidays, but before then Ive
>>> found him sleeping overnight at Noisebridge. He's been doing this a while.
>>>  On Feb 15, 2014 9:43 PM, "Hannah Grimm" <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you NOT refer to people of unknown gender as "it?"  We already have
>>>> a word for that which doesn't dehumanize people by comparing them to
>>>> objects.  It's "they."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Norman Bradley <pryankster at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  N0_Hat is also spamming the wiki and should be GONE. Male or female
>>>>> IT should be gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are entitled to your own opinion.
>>>>> You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/15/2014 7:57 PM, Paul Monad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  One in turing named sid.  Other was __Hat. Both claimed they were
>>>>> just napping.
>>>>>  Nick was here but not sleeping.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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