[Noisebridge-discuss] 2 sleepers this morning

[Curtis Gagliardi]

I realized the sleepers were a problem, but it wasnt' until the last
meeting I went to where people weren't willing to consider banning sleepers
or sleeping that I realized people thought it was ok.  It was pretty
depressing.


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> Wow, people are still arguing about whether sleepers are OK or not?
>
> I thought it was pretty clear that sleepers aren't allowed. I'm confused!
>
> Since consensus cannot block the fact that Noisebridge must pay rent,
> maybe I'll help get that Noisebridge fundraising party event started as
> soon as possible.
>
>
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>
> Romy Ilano
> romy at snowyla.com
>
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>
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> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Much as Noisebridgers don't want to air our dirty laundry, people
>> sleeping and/or squatting at Noisebridge has been a constant problem for
>> the last several years. Because consensus makes it impossible for us to
>> establish sleeping as forbidden, okay, or okay under some circumstances
>> (there will always be one person to block the proposal either way), there
>> hasn't been any effective resolution.
>>
>> The usual cycle is: some people start crashing at Noisebridge, more
>> people start crashing at Noisebridge, people start living at Noisebridge,
>> it becomes a problem too large to ignore and people crack down and tell
>> people to stop squatting at Noisebridge, then some people start crashing at
>> Noisebridge.
>>
>> It's pretty much always the same few people using Noisebridge as their
>> bedroom, so don't think that everyone is treating the space as a commune.
>>
>> -Al
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Justin Hasuike <jwcalmus at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> To be honest, I was interested in the hackerspace and subscribed
>>> accordingly to see what's going on before stopping by to check it out.
>>> Thanks for clarifying Romy, seemed a little awkward :)
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope people reading the list don't think the people at noise bridge
>>>> argue over semantics like this 100% of the time .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When we aren't fleeing tech talks we actually hack.. This discussion is
>>>> maybe 1% of the real activity that goes on
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> Snowyla.com
>>>>  Romyilano.com
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "It" refers to objects, not people, so pretending you have some
>>>> grammatical high-ground here is ludicrous.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention, we use "they" singularly all the time in our language,
>>>> and have since Shakespeare.  Since before Shakespeare.  Since
>>>> *Chaucer.*
>>>>
>>>> Imagine that sentence without the dehumanizing "it": "Male or female
>>>> THEY should be gone."  Hardly going to destroy the English language.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No-hat aka Josh was out of town over the holidays, but before then Ive
>>>>> found him sleeping overnight at Noisebridge. He's been doing this a while.
>>>>>  On Feb 15, 2014 9:43 PM, "Hannah Grimm" <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you NOT refer to people of unknown gender as "it?"  We already
>>>>>> have a word for that which doesn't dehumanize people by comparing them to
>>>>>> objects.  It's "they."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Norman Bradley <pryankster at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  N0_Hat is also spamming the wiki and should be GONE. Male or
>>>>>>> female IT should be gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are entitled to your own opinion.
>>>>>>> You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/15/2014 7:57 PM, Paul Monad wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  One in turing named sid.  Other was __Hat. Both claimed they were
>>>>>>> just napping.
>>>>>>>  Nick was here but not sleeping.
>>>>>>>
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