[Noisebridge-discuss] Messy Noisebridge. Especially Kitchen

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Mon Feb 24 03:39:55 UTC 2014

The kitchen is a habitual problem at Noisebridge. In my opinion, having the
stove invites more problems than benefit. Historically the people who use
the kitchen cannot keep it clean, food is routinely left out for the mice,
and many people use it to cook their personal meals as a part of living at
Noisebridge. When I use the floor cleaner at the space, the kitchen
requires the most frequent cleaning.

Getting rid of the stove, but keeping the fridge, oven, and microwave would
go a long way to improving the space.


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm here to teach JavaScript class, as usual, on Sunday morning.
> The kitchen has been getting more and more disgusting. Today, bowl of
> beans/soup, bread all over the place, some of it nibbled on by humans
> and probably rats. I did notice a woman recently cooking in the
> kitchen. It is not Cynthia, who also does more cleaning than cooking,
> but was someone else.
> Each person must take care of his or her own mess. Leave it cleaner
> than you found it.
> The mixed smell of pee, old food, and I don't know what permeates
> throughout.
> The problem stems from general slobbery, unfortunately. Here are a few
> proposed solutions:
> 1) A ticket system, either as an app or wiki page. When someone leaves
> a mess out, issue a ticket to that person. Same for sleepers. The way
> to get the ticket to go away is to perform 1hr's worth of cleaning
> service, to be performed within 1 month, or be banned.
> 2) Hire cleaning service.
> 3) Do nothing.
> A ticket system: pros/cons
> PRO: Discourages people from being messy
> PRO: If they are, makes them make up for it in a big way.
> PRO: Encourages social/peer regulation. Not authoritarian.
> CON: Requires creating a Wiki page or app. Wiki pages are editable.
> CON: Might be uncomfortable to issue tickets.
> Hire cleaning service.
> PRO: It works.
> CON: It does not address the cause of the problem.
> CON: It unfairly benefits those who make messes.
> CON: It costs money.
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