[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping

Jeffrey Carl Faden jeffreyatw at gmail.com
Tue Jan 28 01:15:18 UTC 2014


Huh. If members aren't around at night, why do we keep the space open?


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> This would also be solved by Members being around at night, SOMETIMES.
>  That is when excellence is needed the most!
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Only once have I found a person who sleep at Noisebridge who didn't deny
>> that they were sleeping. The rest are perfectly comfortable telling you
>> that black is white. If you say sleeping is unexcellent but napping is
>> okay, suddenly everyone will be "napping".
>>
>> I think a "people found sleeping between 10pm and 10am during the week
>> will be woken up and asked to leave the space the first time and banned the
>> second time" rule would pretty much solve 90% of the problem. Maybe make
>> the second time have to be within 30 days of the first?
>>
>> Though I don't think even this compromise would pass consensus: the
>> minority of people okay with people sleeping overnight or living in the
>> space would block it.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I sometimes feel that sleeping vs resting eyes vs napping is akin to
>>> what color should we paint the bike shed?  It just is easier to say the
>>> bike sheds we make are always going to be X color.  Thats it.  The
>>> differences between resting your eyes, napping and sleeping are almost
>>> irrelevant.  It just leads to more discussion and wasted time when we could
>>> just deal with it one way or another and call the issue "CLOSED FIXED".
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al,
>>>>
>>>> i'll start making morning appearances more often and see whos there and
>>>> what they are working on in the space.
>>>>
>>>> My concern was turning the "no overnight sleeping" policy into
>>>> a witch hunt for napping or "closing ones eyes" when some people really do
>>>> hack all night.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While it is fun to imagine technical solutions, it basically comes
>>>>> down to having people wake others up and making Noisebridge a place where
>>>>> people don't sleep overnight at.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, the sleepers both a) repeatedly sleep overnight even
>>>>> though they know the community overwhelmingly is against it but b) there's
>>>>> a minority of members who will block banning these sleepers from the space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  epic!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/27/14, 10:06 AM, Oren Beck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Wake up by Quadcopter and follow spot+PA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  YOU_YES..YOU!!! WAKE UP AND LEAVE BEFORE FORMAL TRESPASS CHARGES ARE
>>>>>> FILED!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  If they damage the 'bot- slam dunk case for vandalism on top of
>>>>>> trespass seems logical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oren Beck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 816.632.3695
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 1/27/14 9:39 AM, Norman Bradley wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't do this because of my transportation situation. If there is
>>>>>>> somebody that is usually up and about in the early morning say 2-4 am that
>>>>>>> would be the time to kick out sleepers. The only way we are going to solve
>>>>>>> the problem is to make it consistently uncomfortable to sleep there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Strobe light?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boxing timer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alfred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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