[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping

[Al Sweigart]

Only once have I found a person who sleep at Noisebridge who didn't deny
that they were sleeping. The rest are perfectly comfortable telling you
that black is white. If you say sleeping is unexcellent but napping is
okay, suddenly everyone will be "napping".

I think a "people found sleeping between 10pm and 10am during the week will
be woken up and asked to leave the space the first time and banned the
second time" rule would pretty much solve 90% of the problem. Maybe make
the second time have to be within 30 days of the first?

Though I don't think even this compromise would pass consensus: the
minority of people okay with people sleeping overnight or living in the
space would block it.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> I sometimes feel that sleeping vs resting eyes vs napping is akin to what
> color should we paint the bike shed?  It just is easier to say the bike
> sheds we make are always going to be X color.  Thats it.  The differences
> between resting your eyes, napping and sleeping are almost irrelevant.  It
> just leads to more discussion and wasted time when we could just deal with
> it one way or another and call the issue "CLOSED FIXED".
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Al,
>>
>> i'll start making morning appearances more often and see whos there and
>> what they are working on in the space.
>>
>> My concern was turning the "no overnight sleeping" policy into
>> a witch hunt for napping or "closing ones eyes" when some people really do
>> hack all night.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> While it is fun to imagine technical solutions, it basically comes down
>>> to having people wake others up and making Noisebridge a place where people
>>> don't sleep overnight at.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the sleepers both a) repeatedly sleep overnight even
>>> though they know the community overwhelmingly is against it but b) there's
>>> a minority of members who will block banning these sleepers from the space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  epic!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/27/14, 10:06 AM, Oren Beck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Wake up by Quadcopter and follow spot+PA.
>>>>
>>>>  YOU_YES..YOU!!! WAKE UP AND LEAVE BEFORE FORMAL TRESPASS CHARGES ARE
>>>> FILED!
>>>>
>>>>  If they damage the 'bot- slam dunk case for vandalism on top of
>>>> trespass seems logical.
>>>>
>>>> Oren Beck
>>>>
>>>> 816.632.3695
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  On 1/27/14 9:39 AM, Norman Bradley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't do this because of my transportation situation. If there is
>>>>> somebody that is usually up and about in the early morning say 2-4 am that
>>>>> would be the time to kick out sleepers. The only way we are going to solve
>>>>> the problem is to make it consistently uncomfortable to sleep there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Strobe light?
>>>>>
>>>>> Boxing timer?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Alfred
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Ronald Cotoni
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