[Noisebridge-discuss] Kitchen Plans

Mitch Altman maltman23 at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 30 22:58:19 UTC 2014


+1 on the coffeehouse workspace!


Mitch.



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From: tdfischer at hackerbots.net
To: pnaomi at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:14:38 -0700
CC: gregorydillon at gmail.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; girlgeek at wt.net
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Kitchen Plans


Anyone on nb-discuss here looking to contribute some tall chairs or bar stools
for this, or a few bucks to pick up some somewhere?

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 13:13:23 Naomi Most wrote:
> +1 to the "coffeehouse" idea -- nothing like reinforcing concepts through
> lived design.
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com> wrote:
>> I like the idea of making the space into a coffeehouse work space. Makes
>> the area useful for things outside of "food", especially if it works well
>> as a meeting space for smaller groups.
>>
>> Tables around the columns sound like a great idea! I'd be down to help out
>> with that :)
>>
>> On 30 July 2014 10:09, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 08:57:23 Gregory Dillon wrote:
>>>> ‚ÄčI agree with girlgeek that the problem is people didn't want to do
>>>
>>> their
>>>
>>>> dishes, and too many people who wanted to use Noisebridge as a squat.
>>>>
>>>> If others agree, I'd rather see the space identified with the function
>>>> similar to a coffee house seating area, rather than a "breakroom". I
>>>> think of a breakroom as go there for 15 minutes and gossip, and that's
>>>
>>> not
>>>
>>>> so awesome. But a place where the design function is to encourage one
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> sit for 45 minutes and do some work at a table, would be super.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to participate in moving chairs around tables around to
>>>> achieve
>>>> this coffeehouse work-space function, if there is a coalescence of
>>>> agreement around that plan. And, I'm told that Starbucks research says
>>>> small round tables are ideal, because if one person is at a table, it
>>>> is
>>>> more inviting with a round table for a second and third person to join.
>>>> So that there are design element encouraging people to exchange of
>>>
>>> ideas
>>>
>>>> and knowledge within the area. The coffeehouse space function could
>>>
>>> also
>>>
>>>> double as a meeting space for small groups.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in constructing a hexagonal or circular table around
>>> one or
>>> two of the columns in that area. Anyone else? :)
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:30 AM, girlgeek <girlgeek at wt.net> wrote:
>>>>> The supply that is unreliable is tools willing to do their own
>>>
>>> dishes.
>>>
>>>>> Claudia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/30/14 12:36 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Earlier today I was thinking about the kitchen conundrum a bit and
>>>>> postulated that the buildup of dishes is correlated with an
>>>>> unreliable
>>>>> presence of cleaning tools and supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone else think this is a reasonable hypothesis and ideas on
>>>
>>> how to
>>>
>>>>> test/solve in the future?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 23:36:55 Andy Isaacson wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:18:41PM -0700, Jean-Jacques Zenger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>>
>>>>> problem with it is that we are subject to health department
>>>>> regulations, inspections, and need a permit. That's all do-able, but
>>>>> many members don't like the outside interference that comes with it.
>>>>> People tell me that they don't want a big kitchen because they don't
>>>>> need it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed, I think that getting into compliance as a large kitchen
>>>
>>> would be
>>>
>>>>> a ton of work to support a function that is at odds with the point
>>>>> and
>>>>> the spirit of Noisebridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want a place to make an occasional coffee and maybe reheat some
>>>>> leftovers, wash my coffee mug, and fill my water bottle with
>>>>> delicious
>>>>> Hetch Hetchy water. More than that I don't see the point.
>>>>>
>>>>> I plan to go to Building Resouce, the City recycling center for all
>>>>>
>>>>> kinds of building features, on Wednesday. Their inventory is all
>>>>> donated home and business items that are not wanted after a remodel.
>>>>> Their prices are low to encourage re-use of the items, and keep the
>>>>> building materials and fixtures out of the dump. What I will be
>>>>> looking for is a "single bowl" kitchen sink, with a cabinet below. It
>>>>> will be either a standard one, or I would like to find something
>>>>> unique and fun, reflecting Noisebridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Standard seems reasonable (and I like double bowl kitchen sinks, but
>>>>>
>>>>> whatever). If I were dictator I'd love to see a custom countertop
>>>
>>> cast
>>>
>>>>> out of concrete or fabbed out of steel or made of epoxied lumber, but
>>>>> I'm not going to do that work so I don't get to make demands. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Beyond this equipment, I currently have no other plans for the
>>>>>
>>>>> kitchen. I want to let do-ocracy and members decide what else they
>>>>> want for our break room.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Jacques
>>>>> Kitchen Team Leader
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for doing all of this work.
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy
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