[Noisebridge-discuss] Kitchen Plans

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Wed Jul 30 20:13:23 UTC 2014


+1 to the "coffeehouse" idea -- nothing like reinforcing concepts through
lived design.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com> wrote:

> I like the idea of making the space into a coffeehouse work space. Makes
> the area useful for things outside of "food", especially if it works well
> as a meeting space for smaller groups.
>
> Tables around the columns sound like a great idea! I'd be down to help out
> with that :)
>
>
> On 30 July 2014 10:09, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 08:57:23 Gregory Dillon wrote:
>> > ​I agree with girlgeek that the problem is people didn't want to do
>> their
>> > dishes, and too many people who wanted to use Noisebridge as a squat.
>> >
>> > If others agree, I'd rather see the space identified with the function
>> > similar to a coffee house seating area, rather than a "breakroom".   I
>> > think of a breakroom as go there for 15 minutes and gossip, and that's
>> not
>> > so awesome.   But a place where the design function is to encourage one
>> to
>> > sit for 45 minutes and do some work at a table, would be super.
>> >
>> > I'd like to participate in moving chairs around tables around to achieve
>> > this coffeehouse work-space function, if there is a coalescence of
>> > agreement around that plan.  And, I'm told that Starbucks research says
>> > small round tables are ideal, because if one person is at a table, it is
>> > more inviting with a round table for a second and third person to join.
>> > So that there are design element encouraging  people to exchange of
>> ideas
>> > and knowledge within the area.  The coffeehouse space function could
>> also
>> > double as a meeting space for small groups.
>>
>> I'd be interested in constructing a hexagonal or circular table around
>> one or
>> two of the columns in that area. Anyone else? :)
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:30 AM, girlgeek <girlgeek at wt.net> wrote:
>> > >  The supply that is unreliable is tools willing to do their own
>> dishes.
>> > >
>> > > Claudia
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 7/30/14 12:36 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Earlier today I was thinking about the kitchen conundrum a bit and
>> > > postulated that the buildup of dishes is correlated with an unreliable
>> > > presence of cleaning tools and supplies.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone else think this is a reasonable hypothesis and ideas on
>> how to
>> > > test/solve in the future?
>> > >
>> > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 23:36:55 Andy Isaacson wrote:
>> > >  On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:18:41PM -0700, Jean-Jacques Zenger wrote:
>> > >
>> > >  The
>> > >
>> > > problem with it is that we are subject to health department
>> > > regulations,  inspections, and need a permit. That's all do-able, but
>> > > many members don't like the outside interference that comes with it.
>> > > People tell me that they don't want a big kitchen because they don't
>> > > need it.
>> > >
>> > >  Agreed, I think that getting into compliance as a large kitchen
>> would be
>> > >
>> > > a ton of work to support a function that is at odds with the point and
>> > > the spirit of Noisebridge.
>> > >
>> > > I want a place to make an occasional coffee and maybe reheat some
>> > > leftovers, wash my coffee mug, and fill my water bottle with delicious
>> > > Hetch Hetchy water.  More than that I don't see the point.
>> > >
>> > >  I plan to go to Building Resouce, the City recycling center for all
>> > >
>> > > kinds of building features, on Wednesday. Their inventory is all
>> > > donated home and business items that are not wanted after a remodel.
>> > > Their prices are low to encourage re-use of the items, and keep the
>> > > building materials and fixtures out of the dump. What I will be
>> > > looking for is a "single bowl" kitchen sink, with a cabinet below. It
>> > > will be either a standard one, or I would like to find something
>> > > unique and fun, reflecting Noisebridge.
>> > >
>> > >  Standard seems reasonable (and I like double bowl kitchen sinks, but
>> > >
>> > > whatever).  If I were dictator I'd love to see a custom countertop
>> cast
>> > > out of concrete or fabbed out of steel or made of epoxied lumber, but
>> > > I'm not going to do that work so I don't get to make demands. :)
>> > >
>> > >  Beyond this equipment, I currently have no other plans for the
>> > >
>> > > kitchen. I want to let do-ocracy and members decide what else they
>> > > want for our break room.
>> > >
>> > > Jean-Jacques
>> > > Kitchen Team Leader
>> > >
>> > >  Thanks for doing all of this work.
>> > >
>> > > -andy
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