[Noisebridge-discuss] why would hackers come to noisebridge?

[Ronald Cotoni]

I am not. It is cool and 100% necessary due to other circumstances I stated
above.  Its a place female identifying people can go and not feel
threatened and just work on cool stuff.  It is great!


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Jessica Ross <jessica.r.ross at gmail.com>wrote:

> Feminist doesn't imply "only other females", just that it respects women.
>
> Hm, after going to the website, the mission statement strongly implies
> women-only. I'm almost offended about that.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am with what hep said.  I am also with Naomi.  This is a hackerspace.
>>  Lets hack the system and figure out how to solve problems.  I am also with
>> Al that I feel sad that UU had to even exist because noisebridge was not
>> safe enough or good enough.  I also understand that some people just like
>> working with other females and don't even want to bother at this stage of
>> their lives.  I just feel it was mostly a response to Noisebridge not being
>> safe and not the latter.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am openly biased towards anarchism and lack of top-down control.
>>> But we can't keep shouting down the idea of "oversight" to address
>>> problems that Noisebridge has had for YEEAAARRRSSS when we've
>>> certainly given the Noisebridge traditional methods that long to fix
>>> things.
>>>
>>> For the record, I don't agree with the idea of direct
>>> people-management or in changing the way we arrive at decisions at
>>> Noisebridge.  My idea of a positive change would be to have the board
>>> managing facilities and facilitating participation -- e.g. forming
>>> working groups.  I believe these improvements will make a lot of the
>>> other crap die down naturally.
>>>
>>> And as it turns out, that's what we're going to do first.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
>>> > And that would be different from what noisebridge has had in the last
>>> 5yr
>>> > how? as it stands, many women do not feel safe at noisebridge because
>>> of
>>> > sexual assault and the past somewhat failure to deal with it in a
>>> manner
>>> > where women felt safe and listened to at nb. many valuable contributing
>>> > people have left nb because of its failure to address major
>>> infrastructure
>>> > problems. if having a more active board helps to stop sexual abuse and
>>> makes
>>> > the culture more welcoming to those who would positively contribute,
>>> then i
>>> > am 100% down with active management. i would like noisebridge to be
>>> > somewhere i can bring friends to interest them in hacking, bring my
>>> > childrens' school championship robotics team to inspire them to the
>>> next
>>> > victory, not a place where i am fearful to go on my own because there
>>> are no
>>> > protections or infrastructure to ensure basic safety.
>>> >
>>> > -hep
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Torrie Fischer <
>>> tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I think it is important to note that in the context of a hackerspace,
>>> >> there is
>>> >> a difference between managing the infrastructure and managing the
>>> people
>>> >> who
>>> >> hack on the infrastructure.
>>> >>
>>> >> From experience, just saying "active management" easily leads to bad
>>> times
>>> >> and, uh, rather verbose mailing list threads.
>>> >>
>>> > --
>>> > hep
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>>> >
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ronald Cotoni
>> Systems Engineer
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>
>
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> Jessica R. Ross
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>



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Ronald Cotoni
Systems Engineer
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