[Noisebridge-discuss] modern sexism

Elizabeth Hubbard emhubbard28 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 18 02:30:24 UTC 2014

People always get so offended when you suggest other demographics of humans
deserve the same level of respect for their humanity.  I get called a troll
by homophobes all the time.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Troll-de-lol-lol" says Elizabeth Hubbard
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Elizabeth Hubbard <emhubbard28 at gmail.com>wrote:
>> Pardon the criticism, no offense, but as a lifelong feminist, the term
>> "ally" ties my stomach up in knots.  I can't stand when we put up all these
>> demographic barriers, like, "You're a man, so you can't be a feminist,"
>> just because someone has a penis, that means they are somehow fundamentally
>> different from women.  What about transgender women and men?  Are we going
>> to exclude them, too?  Or just cis-gender men?  And isn't that the sort of
>> discrimination we're trying to end?
>> Ally is offensive because it's highly condescending and patronizing.
>>  It's placing people in that demographic as a lesser class of human, as
>> feminist being Grade A and feminist ally being Grade B.
>> And, Hannah, how would you feel if someone said to you, "That's how to be
>> a good person who can never join our group based on body type?"
>> Oh, and we need some female football players in the NFL asap.
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