[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: Re[2]: Trimmed off the board list

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Thu Mar 27 20:57:16 UTC 2014


Johny, whatever you wrote, you should probably apologize to Rachel and stop
emailing her directly. You've fired off angry emails that cross the line
from heated into insulting and uncivil before, and while you do later
apologize for it (in my experience) it isn't acceptable. Maybe just take a
break from the list to cool down a bit.

Rachel, please stop with the name calling. You are right to point out bad
behavior and describe it negatively, but calling someone an "annoying gnat
of a person" turns this thread away from constructive arguing into
unconstructive insults.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:26 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Johny Radio" <johnyradio at gmail.com>
> Date: Mar 27, 2014 7:33 AM
> To: "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
>
> <snip>
> >
> > Please hate on this and list-post it.
>
> Damned if I do, damned if I don't. There were two emails in my inbox from
> this annoying gnat of a person. My solution here is to implement a filter
> whereby any email this annoying gnat of a person writes gets instantly
> deleted.  It is now impossible for any of his emails to reach me.
>
> I mention this on-list as a way to demonstrate the use of email tools to
> reduce harassment (ah, a technical solution to a social problem) and to
> make sure that folks know who the people are within our community that
> would find it funny to contravene someone's express wishes about how they
> want to be treated.
>
> Oh, to be a woman insistent on speaking in public is a fine, fine thing,
> that is invariably rewarded with belittlement, harassment, and dismissal.
> My experiences in political organizing have led me to meet many different
> women who get involved in public organizing, and many more who have tried
> but been overwhelmed by the negative responses they get. In order to build
> a society that cultivates the voices of all its members, we must encourage
> those who speak up - because we can be certain that in private, those who
> speak up with unpopular opinions that run counter to the status quo are
> being harassed, picked on, and encouraged to quiet the fuck down.
>
> R.
>
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