[Noisebridge-discuss] catching up with "what's wrong with discussing things at the Tuesday meeting"
asweigart at gmail.com
Thu Mar 27 21:16:06 UTC 2014
Naomi, sarcasm doesn't help.
And I would point out that consensus has failed to resolve the "sleeping is
a problem" and "sleeping is fine" factions at Noisebridge. I think a more
equitable voting system for policy would (at least) decrease the
factionalism because issues could actually get resolved, instead of being
dragged out for years and occasionally exploding into arguments like the
sleeping issue has caused.
Hey, Naomi, when you said you are committed to good process, do you mean
the process in the bylaws and that the bylaws are not ignorable? (Sorry if
you've already answered this in a thread I haven't checked.)
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> And that factionalism *certainly* won't happen when we start doing
> 2/3s majority voting.
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey Johny, my concern with that proposal is that instead of one large
> > of people arguing with each other, it will be several small groups of
> > arguing within the group and with other groups. There's no clear way to
> > handle when decisions affect more than one group or even which groups
> > affect. I think a lot of things would turn into "this affects everyone"
> > decisions, and then we're back to consensus again.
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Johny Radio <johnyradio at gmail.com>
> >>> off-load more decisions to interest groups and special-purpose teams.
> >>> ....
> >>> Each group and team elects or appoints a representative for transparent
> >>> but small org-wide meetings.
> >> With this arrangement, even org-wide meetings could operate by
> >> because it would be a small group.
> >> (i suggest this as a long-time opponent of consensus)
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