[Noisebridge-discuss] Rachel's language

[hep]

I also agree that Johnny knew about this request. I will note that this is
something that many female tech persons have to deal with, having their
wishes for contact explicitly ignored and then having the calling out of
that behavior questioned. "misunderstanding" seems to go a long way towards
excusing boundary crossing behavior.

-hep


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Naomi Gmail <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> ...... I think Rachel is on target here. Johny must have previously seen
> Rachel's post-to-list behavior and deliberately wrote that to bother her.
>
> If I imagine Johny writing that to anyone else it seems pretty
> nonsensical.
>
> --Naomi
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Because he added the request for you to post to the list does not mean he
> knew that you did not want to be privately messaged, if I follow this right.
>
> But he does know now, so he won't. I agree with Ryan, this does seem like
> a misunderstanding.
>
> Lolol.
>
> Johny's claim of innocence here would make sense if he hadn't appended a
> request to post his messages to the list to both private emails he sent me.
>
> I don't expect an apology from him, but if he is calling the quote I
> posted a lie that's interesting, and if he expects anyone to believe that
> he didn't know about this desire of mine then I don't really know what that
> quote was supposed to mean. Here's the request he put in his other email to
> me:
> "I hope you don't like this message so that you share it on-list."
>
> Do you deny writing that, johny? Be sure to tell my killfile all about it.
>
> I'll say that in fact the times we've encountered each other at
> noisebridge I've been, if anything, rude to him, since I think he's <elided
> negative words>.
>
> R.
>
> In summary; a misunderstanding, all is good.
> On Mar 27, 2014 8:19 PM, "Johny Radio" <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "hep" <dis at gruntle.org>
>>
>>
>> Rachel asked *everyone* to please message her onlist in at least one
>> recent thread that I read
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, i don't have time to read every post to the list. So no, i
>> did not see that. Nor do i feel it's my responsibility to read every post
>> by rachelyra, to make sure i don't miss any general instructions.
>>
>> And since Rachel and i have chilled in-person at NB with friendly vibes,
>> i had no reason to assume that.
>>
>> To Spinach claim, Rachel never asked me, Johny Radio, not to message her
>> off-list, as Spinach stated.
>>
>> If Rachel, or anybody, does not want to be messaged off-list, i suggest
>> you put that in your signature in every post you send.
>>
>>
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