[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

[Brandon Edens]

Thumbs up.
On Mar 7, 2014 7:53 PM, "Ronald Cotoni" <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ditto!
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am 100% cool with the board actually doing stuff.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am still in a status of having ragequat, but I feel it's
>>> (non)incumbent on me to say that having the board take a more active
>>> role seems to be the best way within Noisebridge's constitutional
>>> arrangements to make this sort of top-down change.
>>>
>>> I do wish a bit that this stance had been more explicit in the
>>> election process, but I can't believe that anybody voting wouldn't
>>> have thought that Al and others wouldn't be taking a more active role
>>> in that way. For instance, enforcing the terms of the lease is
>>> something that we all know should be done, and seems at least to me to
>>> be in the board's remit.
>>>
>>> d.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thanks Al, Great post.  People want to have hope for Noisebridge, and
>>> it
>>> > would be great if the brd of directors does Direct.   As you says,
>>> that's a
>>> > legal responsibility.   With the  near crisis conditions at
>>> Noisebridge, its
>>> > a necessary that Board exercises purposes.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Jake and all,
>>> >>
>>> >> I understand your frustration, because it's one I've had too. I think
>>> that
>>> >> there are a few people at Noisebridge who like it being a clubhouse
>>> or a
>>> >> place with free rent (but only for their friends, not the general
>>> public, of
>>> >> course) and use consensus so that they can prevent anyone from
>>> changing
>>> >> this. For all the anarchist rhetoric, Noisebridge is the most
>>> conservative
>>> >> organization I've ever been a part of.
>>> >>
>>> >> People sleeping overnight at the space has been a problem FOR YEARS.
>>> >> People living out of the space and storing their personal things
>>> there has
>>> >> been a problem FOR YEARS.
>>> >> Being unable to get rid of people who abuse and steal from others or
>>> >> regularly get stoned/drunk/loud/unexcellent has been a problem FOR
>>> YEARS.
>>> >>
>>> >> The bylaws of Noisebridge (our Constitution, as it were) state that
>>> the
>>> >> board of directors makes all the executive decisions for the
>>> organization.
>>> >> It's just that the board has deferred to the consensus process in the
>>> past.
>>> >> I believe this is precisely why these problems are so hard to fix,
>>> including
>>> >> when I served on the board in 2011.
>>> >>
>>> >> Members have gotten tired of this, which is why a board that wants to
>>> take
>>> >> a more active hand in stopping these abuses has been voted in.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jake, I know we're going to have to start proving ourselves with deeds
>>> >> instead of just words, but you're a great contributor to the space.
>>> Making
>>> >> Noisebridge more welcoming to hackers like you is exactly what we
>>> want to do
>>> >> in 2014.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 5 March 2014 23:27, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>> >>> > not much, i was just stirred to action by the self-congratulatory
>>> >>> > progress
>>> >>> > of electing a meaningless board while the ship that is noisebridge
>>> >>> > slowly
>>> >>> > fills with sewage while waiting for a crew.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > what was i supposed to do, threaten to hold my breath until
>>> changes are
>>> >>> > made?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I believe the answer is "grab a plunger" ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (which you did, right?)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -a
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Let's stay in touch.  Greg
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