[Noisebridge-discuss] anti-anonymity proposal take 2

[Gregory Dillon]

Thinking off the top of my head, but what about providing a members list
but including an anonymizing  (word?) function similar to what craigslist
uses to respond to an advertisement.   (and like on craigslist members
could opt in / opt out of the anonymous part)

 That way all the members could be reached - but the members would have a
way to filter their email, and are given more privacy from possible weird
contacts .


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> The reasoning for making it public was as kevin says.  Basically more
> transparency and it is good for members to know who other members are.   As
> far as Rubin saying it is a doocratic thing, this is a pretty big impact
> and could be hurtful/helpful to many members.  This is why we are
> discussing it.  We would like to make it a policy going forward to to share
> this list with a piece of contact info and a name they choose to go by.
> It allows one member to contact another member.  One could doocratically do
> this.  They could ask the Secretary, Tom, for this information and publish
> it themselves.  Possibly in an excellent way and possibly not.  If it goes
> through consensus, it is more formal and written down as opposed to verbal
> tradition that can be done over and over again in the same way.   With
> doocracy there is no real guarantee that it will be done the same in the
> future or whatever.
>
> There are pro's and cons to each side.  I hope this explains some of the
> reasoning.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, I also missed the meeting, so Ron and all please excuse me
>> if I missed some part of the reasoning.
>>
>>
>> I believe every Non-profit including Noisebridge is strengthened when it
>> brings in quality people who can contribute to the organization, especially
>> when those people take leadership position.   Many people are against
>> having their addresses and contact information broadly published and
>> indexed by Google, and they are in > % than avg at NB.   So  a requirement
>> that  their address and contact information be published would be a
>> disincentive to full participation, and may keep good people from being
>> part of Noisebridge.
>>
>> But there is an middle ground  on privacy and openness of membership that
>> can be looked at.  The state law model represents the wisdom of the usage
>> of thousands of nonprofit corporation, and it aims for a middle ground.   I
>> 'd prefer that membership lists not be Google searchable, but that  when a
>> consensus member want a list of members for a reason consistent with being
>> a consensus member, that they are provided that list.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rubin, I would suggest reading the meeting notes from the past few
>>> weeks.  There was some discussion about this specific case.  If
>>> necessarily, I will do a write up in a bit as to why.  Anything can be
>>> doocratic but it isn't necessarily the most excellent way of doing things.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think you are quite understanding it.  Yes this can be
>>>> doocracitcally done by the secretary but the secretary thought it might be
>>>> a nice idea to pass it by the community and reach out to it before doing
>>>> so.  You know to make sure it was excellent.
>>>>
>>>> Tom, would you mind chiming in here and explaining the reasoning (we
>>>> did this at the meeting a bunch but rubin no longer attends them and hasn't
>>>> in quite some time).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eyes up here buddy...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://0.starset.net/screenies/20140312160311-Selection.png
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rubin
>>>>> rubin at starset.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>> Systems Engineer
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Let's stay in touch.  Greg
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ronald Cotoni
> Systems Engineer
>



-- 
Let's stay in touch.  Greg
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/attachments/20140312/e4b70d4b/attachment-0003.html>