[Noisebridge-discuss] modern sexism

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Tue Mar 18 03:46:10 UTC 2014


Elizabeth, I find your ideas intriguing, and would like to subscribe to
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On Mar 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Elizabeth Hubbard" <emhubbard28 at gmail.com> wrote:

> People always get so offended when you suggest other demographics of
> humans deserve the same level of respect for their humanity.  I get called
> a troll by homophobes all the time.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Troll-de-lol-lol" says Elizabeth Hubbard
>>
>> "HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA NOPE" says Hannah
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Elizabeth Hubbard <emhubbard28 at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Pardon the criticism, no offense, but as a lifelong feminist, the term
>>> "ally" ties my stomach up in knots.  I can't stand when we put up all these
>>> demographic barriers, like, "You're a man, so you can't be a feminist,"
>>> just because someone has a penis, that means they are somehow fundamentally
>>> different from women.  What about transgender women and men?  Are we going
>>> to exclude them, too?  Or just cis-gender men?  And isn't that the sort of
>>> discrimination we're trying to end?
>>>
>>> Ally is offensive because it's highly condescending and patronizing.
>>>  It's placing people in that demographic as a lesser class of human, as
>>> feminist being Grade A and feminist ally being Grade B.
>>>
>>> And, Hannah, how would you feel if someone said to you, "That's how to
>>> be a good person who can never join our group based on body type?"
>>>
>>> Oh, and we need some female football players in the NFL asap.
>>>
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