[Noisebridge-discuss] Trimmed off the board list

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 18:41:31 UTC 2014


Also Kevin, just because the people you disagree with won the election does
not mean you are forever shut out from the process: it just means you might
not get your way when the final vote comes in. You were talking at the
meeting about leaving Noisebridge because of the board, but really, don't.
You are still a member, just like all the other members. I don't want to
turn NB into TechShop or something where you have to be a straight white
middle-class male with an ivy league degree to feel like you belong.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's actually better turnout than at the last couple of elections, I
> believe.
>
> I'm hearing different things from different people. I want to address a
> few things:
>
> The polls were open for weeks, so I don't think you can say people weren't
> given enough time to vote.
> Kevin himself conducted the election, so I don't think you can say the
> voting process was illegitimate.
> Not only did the board members get elected, they got elected with between
> 53% and 84% of the total votes in a system that doesn't even require a
> majority to be elected, so I don't think you can say "Noisebridge members
> do not support the board".
>
> But Kevin, you'll always be able to come up with some goal-post moving
> standard that people fail to live up to. If you say the board doesn't have
> the support of Noisebridge, not that the alternative has *even less*.
>
> -Al
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Kevin <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> On March 26, 2014 10:59:17 AM PDT, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
>> jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 13? Isn't that close to the amount of members Noisebridge has?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > We're working on it.
>> > >
>> > > By the way, that "overwhelming support" came in the form of about 13
>> > > actual people voting.
>> > >
>> > > Just some food for thought....
>> > >
>> > > --Naomi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
>> > > <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > I personally envision a transparent process, with time for
>> > discussion and
>> > > > space made for dissenting views to be heard and incorporated.
>> > > >
>> > > > We sometimes have done this. We call this,
>> > > >
>> > > > Consensus.
>> > > >
>> > > > They told us it was radical and we said, we think it is an
>> > interesting
>> > > way
>> > > > to make decisions. Call us radicals then.
>> > > >
>> > > > If the board is empowered to do things they need at least reach
>> > consensus
>> > > > within themselves. The fact that there is dissent even within such
>> > a
>> > > small
>> > > > group means that the solution needs some editing.
>> > > >
>> > > > R.
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> That's about 50% turnout. Additionally,  the least voted for member of
>> the BoD had the support of 7. A far cry from overwhelming support.
>>
>> +1 to refactoring the board roster
>>
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