[Noisebridge-discuss] Problem: people seeing NB as a backup shelter

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Mon May 12 21:03:00 UTC 2014

Yeah, this is good.  I would like to work on the language a little bit
(fewer uses of "should"), but the sentiment seems right.

This policy also implies an action that can be taken by someone
sponsoring someone tentatively (as I am wont to do) but then sees that
the person they've sponsored isn't living up to our cultural

"I am no longer sponsoring you, based on what you are doing."

There should never be an expectation that sponsorship == inviting a
vampire over the threshold.


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> I'm glad you brought this up.  What do you think of this proposal:
> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-November/040268.html
>   "Noisebridge is open to Members, Associate Members, and guests sponsored
>    by same, at all times.  Any person who is not one of the above may be
>    asked to leave if no Member or Associate Member present wishes to
>    sponsor them at that time, with no other justification being necessary.
>    People coming to Noisebridge who don't know anyone should be introduced
>    to members who are present so that sponsorship can occur if members
>    present choose to do so at that time.  Noisebridge should present
>    itself as 'open to public visitors and guests as often as possible'"
> this way, you can ask around and see if any Members or Associate Members are
> sponsoring a problem person (who is presumably not one of those) and if not,
> the "process" can be simplified since there is no room for argument with the
> fact that A. they are not a member and B. no member present wishes to
> sponsor their presence.
> it takes the wind out of their "but i wasn't actually sleeping" argument.
> -jake
> joeblack wrote:
>> I wouldn’t consider myself in any way to be conflict avoidant. I’ve been
>> coming here for 2-3 years on and off and been around for many times someone
>> was waked and asked to leave however. The process is an extremely stressful
>> one that’s mentally draining, similar to trying to rationalize with an
>> irrational person. In fact many times they end up winning out after the
>> person asking them to leave has been worn down during the process. I don’t
>> know about other people but I don’t blame anyone who’s working on something
>> important in which focus is crucial and ruined for a decent period of time
>> by such an encounter. I’m much more a fan of prevention.
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