[Noisebridge-discuss] that's all folks
girlgeek
girlgeek at wt.net
Thu May 15 06:58:34 UTC 2014
Here is Rachel Maddow's famous bikini graph of unemployment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251320370
Claudia
On 5/15/2014 1:40 AM, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
>
> I know the pinpoint moment of the economy crash is in 2008 but the
> effects took a few years to fully percolate to local economies. When
> they did, via waves of unemployment, foreclosure, and defunding, we
> had a massive national movement of unrest and protest which was
> violently suppressed by the authorities.
>
> Just sayin'.
>
> On May 14, 2014 9:53 AM, "girlgeek" <girlgeek at wt.net
> <mailto:girlgeek at wt.net>> wrote:
>
> Noisebridge started in 2008, the same year that the economy crashed.
> Claudia
>
> On 5/14/2014 5:39 PM, Jessica Ross wrote:
>> Just how old is this hackerspace? Just wondering.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com
>> <mailto:romy at snowyla.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow this is so dramatic. I feel there is a natural change
>> from the initial optimism at the start of a hackerspace.
>> Infighting and issues and lack of enthusiasm in membership
>> naturally follows
>>
>> Re: the economy - it's been booming around noisebridge in SF.
>> Most members are working in tech so since the crash we have
>> been doing pretty well financially ., maybe more money less
>> passion and more problems ?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2014, at 1:39 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
>> <rachelyra at gmail.com <mailto:rachelyra at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I personally believe the space began to seriously unravel
>>> upon the occasion of the economic unraveling of the entire
>>> world, aka the biggest economic crash in living memory,
>>> which epically gutted marginal and poor communities,
>>> followed by a huge lopsided and region-specific economic
>>> boom - which created an epicenter for monumental wealth
>>> disparity and growing social discord.
>>>
>>> I mean, it's fun to point fingers at each other's ideas or
>>> efforts as Having Ruined Noisebridge, but I think
>>> acknowledging that the larger social picture has an effect
>>> on us might alleviate the circle of It-Was-Better-When and
>>> open up some space for good-spirited idea-sharing, and
>>> learning from each other's differing perspectives.
>>>
>>> Call me crazy.
>>>
>>> R.
>>>
>>> On May 13, 2014 12:46 PM, "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:pnaomi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Your posts aren't being moderated...
>>>
>>> > I'm disappointed that people didn't want to work to
>>> find creative solutions to try and preserve them.
>>>
>>> Some of us are...
>>>
>>> > I truly believe that the space began to seriously
>>> unravel when the community erected associate membership
>>> rules, access policies and bureaucratic harassment
>>> doctrines as a substitute for true excellence.
>>>
>>> Me too.
>>>
>>> --Naomi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Darius Garza
>>> <313kid at gmail.com <mailto:313kid at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > The jabber is no longer entertaining and it seems like
>>> my posts are being
>>> > moderated for some reason so I've finally decided to
>>> unsubscribe from this
>>> > list. The signal to noise ratio on here is dismal and
>>> it's not worth wading
>>> > through all the petty personal drama to find the
>>> occasional gem.
>>> >
>>> > I wanted to be more involved with noisebridge and help
>>> the space thrive but
>>> > it was almost impossible to find support or make
>>> genuine connections with
>>> > people at the space. Perhaps I could have tried
>>> harder, but the snarky
>>> > attitudes and constant bickering put a damper on my
>>> motivation.
>>> >
>>> > Hackerspaces are so 2010 anyway. I don't need a static
>>> point of reference to
>>> > work with a group of bright, creative individuals or
>>> learn new things. There
>>> > are many places for people to gather that provide more
>>> appropriate resources
>>> > for folks depending on the nature of their work.
>>> >
>>> > Not sure if this is a rage quit or long time coming.
>>> I'll always miss the
>>> > romantic ideals of noisebridge and I'm disappointed
>>> that people didn't want
>>> > to work to find creative solutions to try and preserve
>>> them. I truly believe
>>> > that the space began to seriously unravel when the
>>> community erected
>>> > associate membership rules, access policies and
>>> bureaucratic harassment
>>> > doctrines as a substitute for true excellence.
>>> >
>>> > I wish noisebridge all the best and hope someday to be
>>> eating these words,
>>> > d.
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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