[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge, and a possible future 1-2 years out
dmhomee at gmail.com
Thu May 15 19:05:20 UTC 2014
In all seriousness *hug* though.
To address your critiques collectives actually have shown to scale up
pretty far. The Mondragon federation has 80,000 people involved in it, and
that's largely been established pre-internet era
I think it's a very interesting open question how can keep scaling systems
of democracy and consensus personally.
I would love to hear your input on what to do "right" from the ground up if
you were launching your own project.
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, openfly <
openfly at xn--kgbed8a0h.xn--ngbc5azd> wrote:
> I'd just like to be the first one to predict that this entire fiasco
> will end in disaster and tears. And there will be plenty of blame all
> over, but none of the people involved will ever break from their belief
> that NEXT TIME they will get it right. And there will never be a day
> that they ever get it right.
> Also, the difference in real estate costs between oakland and sf are
> But yeah. This is such a horrifically bad idea.
> "hacker spa / massage collective".
> Christ. If I didn't know Praveen was a nutter I'd think this was a
> hilarious parody of the sort of jokers that destroyed noisebridge.
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:31:30PM -0700, Praveen Sinha wrote:
> > Hello Noisebridge,
> > Much love from Oakland, where I am currently hanging out with the fine
> > folks from the Sudoroom Collective.
> > I've mentioned before how I think it would be neat to have noisebridge at
> > 50,000 people, complete with people powered consensus. I've also
> > the possibilities of leveraging land trusts in the bay area to make
> > out whole buildings a possibility.
> > Right now, sudoroom hackerspace and their sister space Bay Area Public
> > School are planning a move into the Omni -- a 3 story building in the
> > Temescal district of Oakland. They are planning a massive move in with a
> > bunch of open community collectives including a hacker spa/massage
> > collective, an anarchist coffee / bookstore worker owned collective, food
> > not bombs using the industrial sized kitchen downstairs, a feminist
> > collective, a biohacking space called Counter Culture Labs, and a bunch
> > more projects -- all largely collectively driven. You can find out more
> > their wiki at http://wiki.omni-oakland.org - the goal is to eventually
> > the building and put it into a community land trust.
> > Why don't we have this in San Francisco? I'm putting this meme out there
> > -- we have enough energy and projects in our collective visions where we
> > could really make something world changing. Imagine a giant hackerspace
> > combined with kitchen incubators and sensory deprivation tanks. We could
> > design around the current kitchen conflicts from the ground up and we
> > be an instigator for lulz and counter culture on a mass scale in San
> > Francisco. I suggest that we think about the Transamerica pyramid as a
> > possible base of operations. We can take over the pyramid and project
> > mind control rays throughout the bay area from the top.
> > Planting the seeds!!!!
> > Love,
> > Praveen
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