[Noisebridge-discuss] that's all folks

[Jeffrey Carl Faden]

Almost 6 years old.

And I'll echo what spinach is saying. The economy has picked up, but most
people not in some sort of tech-related capacity are still not doing too
well. Are you just assuming that most members have a job in tech? (Are you
assuming that most members have a job?)


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Jessica Ross <jessica.r.ross at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just how old is this hackerspace? Just wondering.
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow this is so dramatic. I feel there is a natural change from the
>> initial optimism at the start of a hackerspace. Infighting and issues and
>> lack of enthusiasm in membership naturally follows
>>
>> Re: the economy - it's been booming around noisebridge in SF.  Most
>> members are working in tech so since the crash we have been doing pretty
>> well financially ., maybe more money less passion and more problems ?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2014, at 1:39 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I personally believe the space began to seriously unravel upon the
>> occasion of the economic unraveling of the entire world, aka the biggest
>> economic crash in living memory, which epically gutted marginal and poor
>> communities, followed by a huge lopsided and region-specific economic boom
>> - which created an epicenter for monumental wealth disparity and growing
>> social discord.
>>
>> I mean, it's fun to point fingers at each other's ideas or efforts as
>> Having Ruined Noisebridge, but I think acknowledging that the larger social
>> picture has an effect on us might alleviate the circle of
>> It-Was-Better-When and open up some space for good-spirited idea-sharing,
>> and learning from each other's differing perspectives.
>>
>> Call me crazy.
>>
>> R.
>> On May 13, 2014 12:46 PM, "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Your posts aren't being moderated...
>>>
>>> > I'm disappointed that people didn't want to work to find creative
>>> solutions to try and preserve them.
>>>
>>> Some of us are...
>>>
>>> > I truly believe that the space began to seriously unravel when the
>>> community erected associate membership rules, access policies and
>>> bureaucratic harassment doctrines as a substitute for true excellence.
>>>
>>> Me too.
>>>
>>> --Naomi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Darius Garza <313kid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > The jabber is no longer entertaining and it seems like my posts are
>>> being
>>> > moderated for some reason so I've finally decided to unsubscribe from
>>> this
>>> > list. The signal to noise ratio on here is dismal and it's not worth
>>> wading
>>> > through all the petty personal drama to find the occasional gem.
>>> >
>>> > I wanted to be more involved with noisebridge and help the space
>>> thrive but
>>> > it was almost impossible to find support or make genuine connections
>>> with
>>> > people at the space. Perhaps I could have tried harder, but the snarky
>>> > attitudes and constant bickering put a damper on my motivation.
>>> >
>>> > Hackerspaces are so 2010 anyway. I don't need a static point of
>>> reference to
>>> > work with a group of bright, creative individuals or learn new things.
>>> There
>>> > are many places for people to gather that provide more appropriate
>>> resources
>>> > for folks depending on the nature of their work.
>>> >
>>> > Not sure if this is a rage quit or long time coming. I'll always miss
>>> the
>>> > romantic ideals of noisebridge and I'm disappointed that people didn't
>>> want
>>> > to work to find creative solutions to try and preserve them. I truly
>>> believe
>>> > that the space began to seriously unravel when the community erected
>>> > associate membership rules, access policies and bureaucratic harassment
>>> > doctrines as a substitute for true excellence.
>>> >
>>> > I wish noisebridge all the best and hope someday to be eating these
>>> words,
>>> > d.
>>> >
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