[Noisebridge-discuss] Dante in the space

[Hannah Grimm]

If I recall correctly he was banned not just for the particular *type *of
vandalism (defacing someone else's artwork-in-progress with racist
comments) as well as for his reaction when he was asked to leave, which
people found threatening and scary.


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:

> Sorry for being unclear before, when I was speaking earlier I was speaking
> in generalities about what would constitute "bad" graffiti, not accusing
> Dante of specific graffiti. I should have clarified.  I assume shit is not
> acceptable when it is sexist, racist, gaycist, etc. Other kinds of graffiti
> can be debated for the artistic value, value to the community, but I
> personally consider tagging/graffiti that involves those themes to be over
> the line, especially without any kind of explanation of context. I don't
> know specifically what Dante was accused of graffiting.
>
> -hep
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That is the same Dante, and I would be /really/ surprised if he were
>> writing racist things on the wall as he is otherwise involved in a lot of
>> anti-racist actions.  From what I heard of his story is that there was some
>> dispute about a cool piece of art being taken down, which he didn't feel
>> fighting over at the time.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <
>> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone confirm for me if this is or isn't a really short, pretty
>>> young, redheaded or sandy haired white guy named Dante who used to go to
>>> school in Berkeley, and was part of occupy? If so I know some of his
>>> community, who would be upset to learn that he was writing racist things on
>>> the wall at noisebridge... and I might try and apply some social pressure.
>>>
>>> R.
>>> On May 13, 2014 10:44 AM, "hep" <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> well the pornography and racist insults made me pretty uncomfortable.
>>>>
>>>> -hep
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, so what are are the qualifiers that lead to "someone has to...
>>>>> spend time cleaning up"?
>>>>>
>>>>> e.g. it's ugly?  it has curse words?  etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:29 AM,  <batkid at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> > If someone has to take time out of their day to purchase paint,
>>>>> > and spend time cleaning up after the legit street artist writing
>>>>> > on the bathroom walls, I would consider the writer's actions
>>>>> > an act of vandalism.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What is the legit street artist hacking?
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