[Noisebridge-discuss] Questions and Concerns with the Proposal to Strike All Members from the Roles

davidfine d at vidfine.com
Tue Oct 14 17:31:14 UTC 2014

It sounds like the problem you're trying to solve is bullshit absentee 
proxy-blocking. Please propose an idea to address that problem instead 
of tinkering with membership. You might start with changes to when and 
how proxy-blocking is allowed.
A member from Ye Age of Myth who pops in from time to time but has never 

On 10/14/14, 10:08 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
> I feel that some of your questions and concerns can be addressed by doing some
> noisebridge spelunking. Here's a mention of bootstrapping membership from Ye
> Age of Myth:
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2008_10_07
> And the work done by the previous Membership Team:
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership_Team
> Here's some various links to discuss:
> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2008-October/001493.html
> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2008-October/001357.html
> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2008-October/001386.html
> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 04:39:23 PM kjs wrote:
>> Dear Noisebridge,
>> It was proposed last week that Noisebridge should strike all members
>> from the roles [0]. The reasons stated include [1]:
>> 1) We have 40 or so people who essentially have, "stock options in a job
>> they never show up to work for".
>> 2) The only power w/ membership is consensus-blocking ability. The
>> observed behavior is people sending in "proxy blocks" without having
>> been present for discussion. Some are great, some are bullshit.
>> 3) What does it mean to have 50ish members that never show up or who pop
>> in every now and again?
>> My questions and concerns:
>> 1) To add a new member to the roles requires two member sponsors and the
>> consensus of Noisebridge. What's the kernel to repopulate the member
>> roles w/o members to consense on new ones?
>> 2) With regard to number 2 above, I need some more convincing that
>> Noisebridge has seen sufficient numbers of bullshit proxy blocks to
>> warrant the proposed action. Can we produce a list documenting proxy
>> blocks in the past year? And scrutinize the list to discern the bullshit
>> proxy blocks from the good proxy blocks?
>> 3) What is consensus with a quorum of zero?
>> Sincerely,
>> A concerned denizen of the Peoples' Republic of Nosiebridge
>> [0] https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_consensus_items
>> [1] https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_10_07
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