[Noisebridge-discuss] MongoDB Office Hours

Torrie Fischer tdfischer at hackerbots.net
Tue Jul 21 07:16:15 UTC 2015

Noisebridge aint political, but the people who build it are and that should be 

Bringing in anyone into the space - regardless of who they are or where 
they're from - changes the cultural makeup of the space much in the same way 
that bringing a tweaker, someone with a bowie knife on their hip, or even just 
someone in an expensive suit into the space throws the energy off. They might 
be sitting alone in the back corner being quiet, but their mere presence is 
enough to throw off the vibe and make people wonder "the people here are okay 
with this?"

I think it'd be really beneficial if this was discussed off-list. E-mail is 
too effective at filtering the emotional components of communication.

On Monday, July 20, 2015 10:55:55 PM 2011PIguppy2011 wrote:
> As far as I am concerned, free office hours are just that. I don't see the
> point in injecting SF city politics / hot button issues into this and I see
> it as blatant trolling. Noisebridge is not a political nonprofit.
> It would be great to have more responsible people in the space at a regular
> time using it to hack on tech. He said it was open office hours for whoever.
> On Monday, July 20, 2015, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com
> > 
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com');>> wrote:
> >> > We usually announce on Twitter that we’ll be available at the venue and
> >> > typically expect about 10 to 12 people to drop in on average. Anyone
> >> 
> >> with
> >> 
> >> > questions about MongoDB are welcome. I’d like to start the first
> >> > "office
> >> > hours” Thursday the 23rd, from 4-6 PM.  Do you feel that Noisebridge is
> >> 
> >> an
> >> 
> >> > appropriate please to host these small meetups?
> >> 
> >> I think that it's doocratic in the spirit of Noisebridge. You'll need
> >> to chec the schedule for room availability of Turing or Church before
> >> booking your room by editing the wiki.
> > 
> > I vehemently disagree  -- MongoDB is a for profit company that would
> > otherwise pay top dollar to have real estate to run where it can get
> > mindshare for other engineers.   While I support noisebridge to support
> > our
> > own community members to launch their for profit projects (for example,
> > mitch altman pitching his electronics), it's frankly because of companies
> > like MongoDB getting a free ride from the city that not only is
> > Noisebridge's rent going up, but everyone in the neighborhood getting
> > kicked out as well.
> > 
> > Noisebridge it  /community/ space - so I really have ask, what concrete
> > value does MongoDB add to this community?   Why not give Microsoft or
> > Apple
> > free space to develop mindshare in our community?
> > 
> > We may need cash, and once again our non-profit status does not allow us
> > to have in-kind donations.  But, if you really want to play ball with
> > these
> > companies, we better make our benefit very tangible and make it *a lot*.
> > MongoDB would otherwise pay thousands if not tens of thousands to have a
> > deal somewhere else in the city.  We are a premium spot for it, and we
> > should make it such that even the poorest and most unconnected of us are
> > able to benefit from it.
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