[Tastebridge] Invitation to join bio at lists.noisebridge.net

Rikke Rasmussen rikke.c.rasmussen at gmail.com
Sun Apr 3 01:17:27 UTC 2011

Hi Frantisek,

First, my deepest respect for your work on motivating, facilitating and
organizing 'Help Japan' - you do us all proud!

Conc. the birth of Biobridge, I'll try my best to sum up the situation and
our reasons for forming a new group, rather than expanding the activities of
Tastebridge. First off, the interest in the strictly biological aspects of
Tastebridge have been waning for quite a while - perhaps because of the lack
of expertise? - and we're now at the point where Sean and I are the only
ones who regularly do any kind of brewing or fermentation.

Since we both wanted to move towards more strictly scientific (and also
partially theoretical) activities, we started talking to other people about
the idea, and somewhere in those initial discussions, someone came up with
the name Biobridge and it stuck. Given that it is already a pretty active
group (we're working on a project called the
BioBoard<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/BioBoard>for the great
global hackerspace challenge), and that the name has been
widely publicized already via our
wiki<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/BioBridge> and
project blog <http://www.element14.com/community/blogs/bioboardblog>, not
using it isn't really an option anymore.

You brought up two good points, though, so I'll just reiterate. 1) having
the biohacking activities (which might be controversial - don't think so,
but you never know) remain officially separate from the cooking and kombucha
(which are very popular) is probably a good way to ensure that controversy
doesn't spill over should it occur, and 2) having a name which clearly
signifies that DIYbio is the main focus is really useful for getting in
touch with other like-minded (groups of) individuals.

There is no split, merely expansion.


On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 8:32 AM, <algoldor at frantisekapfelbeck.org> wrote:

> Hi Rikke, DIY bio and All,
> I wonder if there is some special reason why not to include these
> activities under Tastebridge which is suppose to cover bio/hacking topics
> too of course (if there are people who are interested).
> It was because of the historical reasons why Tastebridge doesn't have bio
> in its name (very strong anti bio/tech feelings in Noisebridge). I feel that
> this will just weaken the bio hacking movement within the group and I really
> do not see why to create this separation. In other words I can see
> immediately disadvantages like separate budgets, equipment, activities, two
> different mailing lists, creating completely new history of group etc. but I
> do not see benefits except of bio in the name which I understand may be
> helpful to be quickly distinguished within the DIY bio movement.
> I would strongly advice you/others in DIY group to put it on the
> Noisebridge discussion list and weekly meeting because as I've said when I
> and few others come with the idea some 10 months ago, there was a very
> strong movement against based on bio hacking past at Noisebridge (Miloh and
> several others know more, it basically ended with expulsion of the group).
> It maybe be possible to push it through now, after people understood based
> on Tastebridge activities that things are a bit different. However the same
> still remain, why to have two different groups doing the same, is there
> really need for it? The only other thing which comes to my mind is that if
> DIY bio screw something up and would be cancelled, Tastebridge may function
> further without any major problems. However take the credit of Tastebridge
> and carefully do the bio hacking seems more easy.
> So my question would be is it not more easy to reshape Tastebridge a bit
> and continuing under the same label with a wider focus?
> Sincerely,
> Frantisek
> PS I'm now out from SF quite for a while so I of course still feel bond to
> Tastebridge but Tastebridge as Noisebridge is what people make of it. So if
> Tastebridge closes down and something new start well that is life, it
> happens. We have seen already what happens when the hacker spaces split and
> generally it is quite a strain for the former group however can be
> understood from geographical point of view http://acemonstertoys.org/ plus
> many times different way of functioning.
> Quoting Rikke Rasmussen <rikke.c.rasmussen at gmail.com>:
>  This is an invitation to join bio at lists.noisebridge.net, the
>> (more-or-less)
>> official mailing list for DIY bio/hacking activities at Noisebridge.
>> Go to https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/bio to subscribe, or
>> reply to this email to be subscribed =)
>> /Rikke
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