[tor] Approaching ISPs
Patrick O'Doherty
p at trickod.com
Mon Jan 23 20:37:00 UTC 2017
Monkeybrains also provides colo services[0]
Maybe we should reach out to see if they'd be willing to host an Exit at
their mission facility? It would appear that costs might be reasonable
[0] - https://www.monkeybrains.net/colocation.php
Ben Kochie:
> What we really would like is to buy bandwidth in a new colo facility we're
> moving to. If Monkey Brains has cross-connects into Equinix, we'd love to
> talk.
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq at eff.org> wrote:
>
>> Let me reccomend Monkey Brains as an ISP that might be willing to host
>> an exit node as well.
>>
>> On 01/23/2017 11:00 AM, mark burdett wrote:
>>> There are some tor exit nodes running on Hurricane Electric, operated by
>>> three different people (one of whom works at Naval Research Lab),
>>> according to https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/
>>>
>>> I guess this makes Hurricane less ideal than another ISP with no nodes.
>>>
>>> No details at
>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ISPCorrespondence
>>> except mention of "cheap he.net <http://he.net> bandwidth" in a note
>>> about another ISP
>>>
>>> --mark B.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com
>>> <mailto:p at trickod.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A very quick search across the archive shows few results for HE
>>> specifically.
>>>
>>> The most promising is from 2013 with someone claiming that "My colo
>>> provider Hurricane Electric understands Tor"
>>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
>> March/001956.html
>>> <https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
>> March/001956.html>
>>> which doesn't seem to be the case in our situation.
>>>
>>> Patrick O'Doherty:
>>> > This might be an interesting thread to cc the tor-relays list
>>> about. I'd
>>> > search for HE in the archives first though.
>>> >
>>> > The HE policies in question for others to view
>>> > * TOS https://he.net/tos.html
>>> > * AUP https://he.net/aup.html
>>> >
>>> > Things like AUP section 2.2 "No customer shall do anything that
>> could
>>> > get any portion of Hurricane Electric's IP space ... put on
>>> blacklists"
>>> > are things we can't possibly comply with given the nature of the
>> Exit.
>>> >
>>> > Ben Kochie:
>>> >> Patrick and I approached HE about running an exit via their
>>> network. We
>>> >> were up front and honest.
>>> >>
>>> >> They came back with a non-answer reply of "Have you read our
>> terms of
>>> >> service?"
>>> >>
>>> >> Of course we can't promise anything, and given the overly broad
>>> terms, HE
>>> >> is not an option.
>>> >>
>>> >> How have we approached vendors in the past?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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