[tor] Approaching ISPs

Patrick O'Doherty p at trickod.com
Mon Jan 23 20:37:00 UTC 2017


Monkeybrains also provides colo services[0]

Maybe we should reach out to see if they'd be willing to host an Exit at
their mission facility? It would appear that costs might be reasonable

[0] - https://www.monkeybrains.net/colocation.php

Ben Kochie:
> What we really would like is to buy bandwidth in a new colo facility we're
> moving to.  If Monkey Brains has cross-connects into Equinix, we'd love to
> talk.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq at eff.org> wrote:
> 
>> Let me reccomend Monkey Brains as an ISP that might be willing to host
>> an exit node as well.
>>
>> On 01/23/2017 11:00 AM, mark burdett wrote:
>>> There are some tor exit nodes running on Hurricane Electric, operated by
>>> three different people (one of whom works at Naval Research Lab),
>>> according to https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/
>>>
>>> I guess this makes Hurricane less ideal than another ISP with no nodes.
>>>
>>> No details at
>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ISPCorrespondence
>>> except mention of "cheap he.net <http://he.net> bandwidth" in a note
>>> about another ISP
>>>
>>> --mark B.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com
>>> <mailto:p at trickod.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     A very quick search across the archive shows few results for HE
>>>     specifically.
>>>
>>>     The most promising is from 2013 with someone claiming that "My colo
>>>     provider Hurricane Electric understands Tor"
>>>     https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
>> March/001956.html
>>>     <https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
>> March/001956.html>
>>>     which doesn't seem to be the case in our situation.
>>>
>>>     Patrick O'Doherty:
>>>     > This might be an interesting thread to cc the tor-relays list
>>>     about. I'd
>>>     > search for HE in the archives first though.
>>>     >
>>>     > The HE policies in question for others to view
>>>     >  * TOS https://he.net/tos.html
>>>     >  * AUP https://he.net/aup.html
>>>     >
>>>     > Things like AUP section 2.2 "No customer shall do anything that
>> could
>>>     > get any portion of Hurricane Electric's IP space ... put on
>>>     blacklists"
>>>     > are things we can't possibly comply with given the nature of the
>> Exit.
>>>     >
>>>     > Ben Kochie:
>>>     >> Patrick and I approached HE about running an exit via their
>>>     network.  We
>>>     >> were up front and honest.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> They came back with a non-answer reply of "Have you read our
>> terms of
>>>     >> service?"
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Of course we can't promise anything, and given the overly broad
>>>     terms, HE
>>>     >> is not an option.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> How have we approached vendors in the past?
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
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