[tor] Approaching ISPs

[Cooper Quintin]

A long time friend of mine is their longest standing employee, I could
make an introduction.

On 01/23/2017 12:37 PM, Patrick O'Doherty wrote:
> Monkeybrains also provides colo services[0]
> 
> Maybe we should reach out to see if they'd be willing to host an Exit at
> their mission facility? It would appear that costs might be reasonable
> 
> [0] - https://www.monkeybrains.net/colocation.php
> 
> Ben Kochie:
>> What we really would like is to buy bandwidth in a new colo facility we're
>> moving to.  If Monkey Brains has cross-connects into Equinix, we'd love to
>> talk.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq at eff.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Let me reccomend Monkey Brains as an ISP that might be willing to host
>>> an exit node as well.
>>>
>>> On 01/23/2017 11:00 AM, mark burdett wrote:
>>>> There are some tor exit nodes running on Hurricane Electric, operated by
>>>> three different people (one of whom works at Naval Research Lab),
>>>> according to https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/
>>>>
>>>> I guess this makes Hurricane less ideal than another ISP with no nodes.
>>>>
>>>> No details at
>>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
>>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ISPCorrespondence
>>>> except mention of "cheap he.net <http://he.net> bandwidth" in a note
>>>> about another ISP
>>>>
>>>> --mark B.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com
>>>> <mailto:p at trickod.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     A very quick search across the archive shows few results for HE
>>>>     specifically.
>>>>
>>>>     The most promising is from 2013 with someone claiming that "My colo
>>>>     provider Hurricane Electric understands Tor"
>>>>     https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
>>> March/001956.html
>>>>     <https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
>>> March/001956.html>
>>>>     which doesn't seem to be the case in our situation.
>>>>
>>>>     Patrick O'Doherty:
>>>>     > This might be an interesting thread to cc the tor-relays list
>>>>     about. I'd
>>>>     > search for HE in the archives first though.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > The HE policies in question for others to view
>>>>     >  * TOS https://he.net/tos.html
>>>>     >  * AUP https://he.net/aup.html
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Things like AUP section 2.2 "No customer shall do anything that
>>> could
>>>>     > get any portion of Hurricane Electric's IP space ... put on
>>>>     blacklists"
>>>>     > are things we can't possibly comply with given the nature of the
>>> Exit.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Ben Kochie:
>>>>     >> Patrick and I approached HE about running an exit via their
>>>>     network.  We
>>>>     >> were up front and honest.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> They came back with a non-answer reply of "Have you read our
>>> terms of
>>>>     >> service?"
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Of course we can't promise anything, and given the overly broad
>>>>     terms, HE
>>>>     >> is not an option.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> How have we approached vendors in the past?
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
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