ZinesFromOuterSpace Postscript

glamortramp at riseup.net glamortramp at riseup.net
Wed Mar 7 17:47:43 UTC 2012

Or maybe the page designator should instead be


for ZiP?

Correction from last message: I mean to say I could post the INDESIGN
file, not Photoshop.
I do use Photoshop for each individual page, but InDesign for the layout
as a whole.
Miloh uses Scribus.
You can use Gimp to design individual pages if you don't have Photoshop.
There are other options as well.
And along with the estimated length of your articles - which I know you
will be getting to me soon - it'd be nice if you let me know whether you
are designing the layout pages yourself, or want me/us to do so.


Glam(or tramp?)

> Oh! Did you subscribe to the zine mailing list? I thought I forgot to Cc
> you. Maybe not. Glad to hear you're in....as for length, I'd say it's up
> to you - anywhere from the same length as last time (2 pages) to 5 pages
> is acceptable. (And bear in mind the pages will be somewhat larger this
> time - to be exact, ZiP02 pages will be 8.5" x 7" vs. 8.5" x 5.5" for
> ZiP01.) The thing is, I need to know asap how many pages to reserve for
> you as I am currently mocking up the layout.
> That goes for everyone btw! So I'm copying the whole list. I'll reiterate
> it at the meeting for those who don't read or respond to email. Ever.
> (Sorry about my blowup about it the other day, but it does hit breaking
> point once in awhile....when someone puts one too many straws on this
> camel's back.)
> Speaking of layout: the biggest thing remaining to figure out (now that we
> have our Submit* & Donate buttons on the front page of ZZW!
> http://zine.noisebridge.net) is a way to make the layout-in-progress
> available for contributors to view -- or possibly edit -- online,
> communally. I don't know how to do that. Maybe it's not possible, since
> the image files we're talking about our so large. (I use TIFs for the
> layout, mostly....even a single TIF file can exceed the maximum 2MB upload
> quota currently on ZZW.) Maybe there's a non-ZZW solution we'll have to
> check into. I can post the Photoshop file of the layout, but I don't think
> that will do any good, unless y'all have all the corresponding files on yr
> computer for it to link to.
> (*Note that I added Submissions Guidelines to the Submit page.)
> Let us ponder together.....as Whimzy would say.
> One more thing: I've created a new notation for the hexdigit pagination:
> it's /x and will precede all ZiP page numbers. It just stands for
> "hexdigit page #" and the reason it's necessary is because we need to
> differentiate between hex and decimal page numbers, since the number 20
> means something different in hex vs. dec. Also there are the letter digits
> in hex. The cool thing about this page number system (props to Miloh for
> the original Hex suggestion!) is that every single page of ZiP will have
> one easily identifiable unique designator - it's a kind of shorthand, or
> code, I suppose. Then I'm using 0 for the covers, with a plus sign + for
> front and minus sign - for back, followed by the issue number. And for the
> sake of convention/consistency/non-confusion, can we agree to use CAPITAL
> letters for the letter hexdigits from here on out? Cool, I hope so. It's
> not even necessary to put the issue/chapter number in front of the page
> number, since pagination is continuous from one chapter to the next. But
> it will be helpful to do since since we are unlikely to remember how many
> pages each issue had. Here are some examples of the beauty of the the
> system I'm developing:
> /x0+1 : Front cover of ZiP01
> /x0-2 : Back cover of ZiP02
> /xA   : Page A (which is in ZiP01)
> /x3   : Page 3 (from ZiP01 - there will never be another page 3 in all of
> ZiPdom)
> /x3B  : Page 3B (first page of ZiP02)
> And so it goes
> I've also developed a classification system using Zine Identification
> Numbers (ZINs), illustrated thus:
> ZiP01.2foLET.2012Q1.7DC - catalog no. for ZiP01
> ZiP02.2foLEG.2012Q2.NRKNMA - catalog no. for ZiP02
> LET = Letter size paper
> LEG = Legal size paper
> fo = folio, the style of printing; can also be indicated with degree sign
> (circle superscript) as used for temperatures
> Thats all for now
> Glam

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