[Build] electrical team plan

jim jim at well.com
Thu Aug 13 20:13:36 UTC 2009


   there's no way to know even approximately until 
after we've collectively settled on the layout and 
needs in various places (e.g. soldering, motor tools, 
cooking, hot water...). 
   for now, i'm figuring i'll proceed as i did with 
the 83C space: buy stuff as needed. as our first 
work is demo and mapping, there'll be no spending. 
there may be some spending associated with the 
inspection and modification phase (2), and if that's 
on the order of a few bucks here and there, i'll 
proceed as described (buy it and submit invoices 
for reimbursement). if there's something on the 
order of $100, i'll run it by somebody or another 
before purchasing (or buy it and take my chances 
on approval). 
   foreseeable costs will include a few circuit 
breakers, pipe and fittings, and wire at least. how 
much of what will depend on collective agreement of 
what we want where (per above). 





On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 12:30 -0700, Shannon Lee wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> This is awesome!
> 
> Do you guys have any idea what you're looking at in non-labor budget?
> 
> --S
> 
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:09 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>         
>           after rachel, lamont, and ted left, andy showed up
>         and pointed out that the large gray metal box to the
>         right of the front room's electrical sub-panel was
>         itself a sub-panel. jim removed the cover so's to make
>         inspection a little easier.
>         
>           the plan is thus altered with respect to removing
>         circuit breakers from the front room's sub-panel
>         (phase 3):
>           inspect the newly discovered sub-panel and trace
>         the supply conductors to whichever circuit breaker in
>         the bigger sub-panel (i'm guessing a two-pole breaker
>         in positions 19 and 20).
>           if possible, move that two-pole breaker to positions
>         16 and 17 rather than remove it entirely from the
>         (bigger) sub-panel.
>           leave all the circuit breakers in the newly
>         discovered sub-panel and trace the circuits they
>         control along with any that come from the bigger
>         sub-panel.
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 21:32 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>         > This evening Jim, Ted, Lamont, and I met at 2169 and Jim
>         came up with
>         > the following plan:
>         >
>         > Phase 1: Demolition
>         > NOTE: first step in any demo is to make sure what you're
>         working on *is
>         > not energized*.
>         >
>         > * pull out flex on wall by where old sewing machines were
>         (flex on wall
>         > is bad)
>         > * remove flex coming out of light fixtures! (2 places)
>         > * remove wire mold against back wall
>         > * remove flex near bathroom wall
>         > * remove wire mold along side wall in front near small room
>         > * remove empty pipe across front windows
>         > * remove rods by sliding glass door
>         > * remove unused coaxial cable
>         > * remove pipe w/#8 wire that comes from a 50A fuse, in the
>         middle of the
>         > space along the ceiling & down a pillar
>         >
>         >
>         > Phase 2: Investigate/modify
>         > NOTE: first step here too is, make sure it's *not energized*
>         >
>         > * pipe by front door with wires sticking out
>         > * wire mold along left wall with hole & visible wires
>         > * figure out electrical in dj booth
>         > * far bathroom light socket
>         > * near bathroom light & fan
>         > * overhead tracks - verify what's in them is
>         black/red/green, or what
>         > * pipe over rear exit door
>         > * bad sockets between rear exit and little room
>         > * breaker box on front window wall w/fuses
>         > * wire from flex to light fixture by front doors
>         > * lights in stairwell
>         > * alarm-looking things plugged into janky socket by front
>         breaker box
>         >
>         >
>         > Phase 3: Breaker boxes
>         > NOTE: make sure it's *not energized*
>         >
>         > * fix dead front for rear breaker box (the one outside the
>         door)
>         > * fix naked copper in a couple of the breakers
>         > * front breaker box:
>         >   * pull out all triple and dual breakers
>         >   * move single & paired breakers to slots 1, 2, 13, 14
>         >   * get Cutler Hammer dead fronts for the rest
>         >
>         >
>         > Phase 4: Circuit tracing
>         > NOTE: MAKE SURE IT IS NOT ENERGIZED FIRST
>         >
>         > * all wires from front breaker.  sort into plugs & lights,
>         plugs in 1,
>         > 13; lights in 2, 14
>         > * wires from rear breaker box, label circuits at both ends
>         >
>         >
>         > At this point we will be blocked on other teams' plans,
>         including (but
>         > probably not limited to):
>         > * floor plan - need this to plan outlets and light switches
>         > * kitchen/oven - need this to plan circuits
>         > * bathroom details for light and fan circuit
>         >
>         > After those are worked out we can make a detailed plan of
>         work and a
>         > budget for it.
>         >
>         > Rachel
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