[Build] electrical project suggestion

jim jim at well.com
Fri Aug 21 03:07:22 UTC 2009


the two sub-panels are controlled by shutoff 
breakers in the basement marked "front" and 
"rear". 

On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:34 -0700, neil maclean wrote:
> really quick note,
> I think the panels would be better named as original and remodel primary 
> and remodel secondary.
> The original has branches that spread through the entire space behind 
> the walls and above the ceiling. Its got the original lighting and the 
> original outlets  as well as some surface mounted stuff that you can 
> easily see. I think it would mislead to think of them as front and rear 
> or East and West.
> 
> otherwise it would be great to have the outlets labeled. I have a 
> numbered label pad designed for the job. You'll need a tester too.
> 
> I recommend starting with a pretty accurate floor plan and drawing the 
> lights and outlets onto it. Then as you number them in the space you can 
> number the plan and we end up with a reliable visual of the wiring.
> 
> I won't be at 2169 tonight though I will be at 63c as I'm getting five 
> minutes near 8 o'clock.
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> Rachel McConnell wrote:
> > Totally agreed.  I'll be at 2169 tonight; my plan has been to improve
> > the elevator button fix but if by some chance that goes quickly, I'll
> > work on circuit mapping.
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > jim wrote:
> >   
> >>    what do you think that we map the circuits at 
> >> this point? neil knows a lot about electricity and 
> >> could help if you don't know what to do. 
> >>    mainly, figure out which receptacles, lights, 
> >> tracks, and any other electrical things are 
> >> connected to which circuits. 
> >>    GOAL is to mark receptacles, switches, lamps, 
> >> pipes, etc. with numbers that correspond to sub-panel 
> >> circuit breakers. 
> >>    sub-panels are 
> >> * Rear 
> >> * Front Primary 
> >> * Front Secondary 
> >>    circuit breakers are installed in positions that 
> >> are numbered starting with 1 at the top left and 
> >> increasing down the left column then resuming count 
> >> at the top of the right column down to the bottom of 
> >> the right column. 
> >>    some positions have two breakers in the single 
> >> position, so the top breaker is A and the bottom 
> >> breaker is B. 
> >>    in the Rear sub-panel, in position 1 there's a dual 
> >> breaker R1A and R1B. in fact, if you look carefully at 
> >> that breaker you'll see it's really four breakers, R1A, 
> >> R1B that's tied to R2A, and R2B, all in a single 
> >> breaker case. So notice that a single case may occupy 
> >> more than one position. In the Front Primary sub-panel, 
> >> there are 12 positions down each side, so top left 
> >> position is FP1 and bottom right position is FP24. 
> >>    for the Rear sub-panel and the Front Secondary 
> >> sub-panel, the mapping instructions will work. 
> >>    because the Front Primary sub-panel is torn apart, 
> >> there's no way to tell which wires connect to breakers 
> >> in which positions. either skip mapping the Front 
> >> Primary sub-panel, or label each wire that sticks out 
> >> of the pipes that connect to the Front Primary sub-panel 
> >> and use that label name to mark pipes, receptacles, 
> >> switches, etc.... 
> >>
> >>
> >>
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