[Build] state of construction (storage bins)

Rachel McConnell rachel at xtreme.com
Sun Jul 4 22:46:56 UTC 2010 

Heh, Jim, I already knew what your opinion was!  Ben seemed undecided
last I heard which is why I asked him.

Your idea here makes me worried from the POV of cleaning up.  Our record
with things like old burritos is not good and I'm reluctant to try a
plan that includes needing to roll things back to somewhere else.
Sawdust and such would probably get tracked around more as well.

On the subject of bins for parts I am neutral.  If a decision is made
I'll happily chip in $$$ to buy some.

Rachel

jim wrote:
>    (not that you asked...) my opinion is let's do 
> it, and let's do it with some advance planning. 
> 
>    i like the idea of being able to expand and 
> contract a work area so's to allow more work 
> areas. as patton is reputed to have said, fixed 
> fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of 
> <i forget just who, but i took the point>. 
>    what about a couple of rolling carts on which 
> to put power tools and a couple more rolling 
> carts on which to hammer, bang, and crash? 
>    use case: roll a cart to where a power tool 
> is stored and slide the power tool off its 
> shelf onto the cart (same level), grab another 
> cart on which to work, roll by the consumables, 
> do yo' thing, then put things back. 
>    buy the idea and our shop has a wall where 
> tools are, another wall where empty rolling 
> racks are, consumables are probably on the 
> walls above the cart surfaces...; users grab a 
> cart for a tool and a cart for the work and 
> roll off to the dirty-making spot.... 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 14:06 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> 
>> I've talked to a number of people about moving the shop and have  
>> gotten responses ranging from 'yes!' to 'enh'. Nobody seemed against  
>> it as long as they didn't have to do the work. I'm willing to do the  
>> work on it -- well I can't do it all myself obviously but I'll do what  
>> I can.
>>
>> Ben what is your opinion after a few days of letting it sit?
>>
>> -Rachel
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:06, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   i agree that bin boxes are probably better
>>> than the little drawers, though a mix might be
>>> right.
>>>   something easy, cheap, and pretty effective
>>> is a shallow shelf on which are boxes and
>>> jars of screws, nails....
>>>   "shallow" might mean not very high and the
>>> shelf pulls out or it might mean not very
>>> deep and not very high, in which case the
>>> shelf does not pull out.
>>>
>>>   where in the matfablab is a good place for
>>> screws, nails...?
>>>
>>>   and how are we doing with the idea of
>>> moving the matfablab east? might be good to
>>> defer a lot of stuff until after that's
>>> resolved: i.e. let's resolve it. i'm mildly
>>> for it--michael kan's note about air flow is
>>> something of a convincer to me, reinforced
>>> by the observation that shop tool noise at
>>> the east end might help make the west end
>>> more quiet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 08:55 -0700, Ben Kochie wrote:
>>>> I think the Bin-Box systems are probably better for the shop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#4666t84/=7td89e
>>>>
>>>> -ben
>>>>
>>>>  "UNIX is user-friendly, it's just picky about its friends."
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010, John Magolske wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> * Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> [100703 19:32]:
>>>>>> Do you prefer bins like the ones that are there, or fishing  
>>>>>> organizer
>>>>>> style boxes with compartments?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally if we could get screws and such into an organizer  
>>>>>> setup with
>>>>>> smaller bins it would be good.  I prefer the fishing/sewing  
>>>>>> organizers
>>>>>> that have compartments on two sides and flip open.  If anyone  
>>>>>> knows a
>>>>>> good place to pick that kind of thing up I could go shopping for  
>>>>>> them.
>>>>> The part bin cabinets listed below are what I'd suggest. They
>>>>> all have the same external dimensions, but with different drawer
>>>>> configurations. Personally, I find the 24 large-drawer and the 64
>>>>> small-drawer versions are most useful. I have the combo 44-drawer
>>>>> version on my desk at work, but mostly use the larger drawers and  
>>>>> wish
>>>>> I got the 24-drawer version instead. These would be nice attached to
>>>>> the wall (don't stick out too far). I like the idea of settling on
>>>>> one particular form factor so they can be tiled across a wall in a
>>>>> modular, space-efficient, non-chaotic manner... and these seem to
>>>>> have a reasonable cost/benefit ratio IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>> From McMaster:
>>>>> 9619T71
>>>>> Plastic c 24 Drawers,
>>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
>>>>> 24 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
>>>>> In stock at $29.64 Each
>>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t71/=3uhja8
>>>>>
>>>>> 9619T75
>>>>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 44 Drawers,
>>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
>>>>> 32 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
>>>>> 12 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
>>>>> In stock at $28.09 Each
>>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t75/=3uhjh3
>>>>>
>>>>> 9619T77
>>>>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 64 Drawers,
>>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
>>>>> 64 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
>>>>> In stock at $31.19 Each
>>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t77/=3uhhxi
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone's up for it I'd be willing to go halves/thirds/fourths/ 
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> on getting 2/3/4/etc of these. Maybe two 24's & one 64 to start  
>>>>> with?
>>>>>
>>>>> When ordering from McMaster, an order placed by 5pm typically  
>>>>> arrives
>>>>> by next business day afternoon (works better if you communicate that
>>>>> we're a bus/org, personal orders can take 2 days). I guess Weds  
>>>>> would
>>>>> be the earliest we could get these if we so chose...and we'd need a
>>>>> reliable receiving person & address.
>>>>>
>>>>> The page Jim linked looks interesting too. Stackable larger bins  
>>>>> would
>>>>> be nice. The nesting bins we currently have (donated by dpc, thx)
>>>>> could be a part of the solution...one thought was to mount to a wall
>>>>> some sort of rail that hooks into the top rear grooves of these bins
>>>>> and a ledge/shelf to support the bottoms.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> John Magolske
>>>>> http://B79.net/contact
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