[Build] state of construction (storage bins)

jim jim at well.com
Sun Jul 4 22:55:53 UTC 2010 


   my sense is that cleanup and organization would 
be easier with my rolling cart scheme. of course i 
have no actual data. 


On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 15:46 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> Heh, Jim, I already knew what your opinion was!  Ben seemed undecided
> last I heard which is why I asked him.
> 
> Your idea here makes me worried from the POV of cleaning up.  Our record
> with things like old burritos is not good and I'm reluctant to try a
> plan that includes needing to roll things back to somewhere else.
> Sawdust and such would probably get tracked around more as well.
> 
> On the subject of bins for parts I am neutral.  If a decision is made
> I'll happily chip in $$$ to buy some.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> jim wrote:
> >    (not that you asked...) my opinion is let's do 
> > it, and let's do it with some advance planning. 
> > 
> >    i like the idea of being able to expand and 
> > contract a work area so's to allow more work 
> > areas. as patton is reputed to have said, fixed 
> > fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of 
> > <i forget just who, but i took the point>. 
> >    what about a couple of rolling carts on which 
> > to put power tools and a couple more rolling 
> > carts on which to hammer, bang, and crash? 
> >    use case: roll a cart to where a power tool 
> > is stored and slide the power tool off its 
> > shelf onto the cart (same level), grab another 
> > cart on which to work, roll by the consumables, 
> > do yo' thing, then put things back. 
> >    buy the idea and our shop has a wall where 
> > tools are, another wall where empty rolling 
> > racks are, consumables are probably on the 
> > walls above the cart surfaces...; users grab a 
> > cart for a tool and a cart for the work and 
> > roll off to the dirty-making spot.... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 14:06 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> > 
> >> I've talked to a number of people about moving the shop and have  
> >> gotten responses ranging from 'yes!' to 'enh'. Nobody seemed against  
> >> it as long as they didn't have to do the work. I'm willing to do the  
> >> work on it -- well I can't do it all myself obviously but I'll do what  
> >> I can.
> >>
> >> Ben what is your opinion after a few days of letting it sit?
> >>
> >> -Rachel
> >>
> >> On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:06, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>   i agree that bin boxes are probably better
> >>> than the little drawers, though a mix might be
> >>> right.
> >>>   something easy, cheap, and pretty effective
> >>> is a shallow shelf on which are boxes and
> >>> jars of screws, nails....
> >>>   "shallow" might mean not very high and the
> >>> shelf pulls out or it might mean not very
> >>> deep and not very high, in which case the
> >>> shelf does not pull out.
> >>>
> >>>   where in the matfablab is a good place for
> >>> screws, nails...?
> >>>
> >>>   and how are we doing with the idea of
> >>> moving the matfablab east? might be good to
> >>> defer a lot of stuff until after that's
> >>> resolved: i.e. let's resolve it. i'm mildly
> >>> for it--michael kan's note about air flow is
> >>> something of a convincer to me, reinforced
> >>> by the observation that shop tool noise at
> >>> the east end might help make the west end
> >>> more quiet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 08:55 -0700, Ben Kochie wrote:
> >>>> I think the Bin-Box systems are probably better for the shop.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#4666t84/=7td89e
> >>>>
> >>>> -ben
> >>>>
> >>>>  "UNIX is user-friendly, it's just picky about its friends."
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010, John Magolske wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> * Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> [100703 19:32]:
> >>>>>> Do you prefer bins like the ones that are there, or fishing  
> >>>>>> organizer
> >>>>>> style boxes with compartments?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Personally if we could get screws and such into an organizer  
> >>>>>> setup with
> >>>>>> smaller bins it would be good.  I prefer the fishing/sewing  
> >>>>>> organizers
> >>>>>> that have compartments on two sides and flip open.  If anyone  
> >>>>>> knows a
> >>>>>> good place to pick that kind of thing up I could go shopping for  
> >>>>>> them.
> >>>>> The part bin cabinets listed below are what I'd suggest. They
> >>>>> all have the same external dimensions, but with different drawer
> >>>>> configurations. Personally, I find the 24 large-drawer and the 64
> >>>>> small-drawer versions are most useful. I have the combo 44-drawer
> >>>>> version on my desk at work, but mostly use the larger drawers and  
> >>>>> wish
> >>>>> I got the 24-drawer version instead. These would be nice attached to
> >>>>> the wall (don't stick out too far). I like the idea of settling on
> >>>>> one particular form factor so they can be tiled across a wall in a
> >>>>> modular, space-efficient, non-chaotic manner... and these seem to
> >>>>> have a reasonable cost/benefit ratio IMO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From McMaster:
> >>>>> 9619T71
> >>>>> Plastic c 24 Drawers,
> >>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
> >>>>> 24 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
> >>>>> In stock at $29.64 Each
> >>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t71/=3uhja8
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 9619T75
> >>>>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 44 Drawers,
> >>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
> >>>>> 32 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
> >>>>> 12 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
> >>>>> In stock at $28.09 Each
> >>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t75/=3uhjh3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 9619T77
> >>>>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 64 Drawers,
> >>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
> >>>>> 64 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
> >>>>> In stock at $31.19 Each
> >>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t77/=3uhhxi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If anyone's up for it I'd be willing to go halves/thirds/fourths/ 
> >>>>> etc.
> >>>>> on getting 2/3/4/etc of these. Maybe two 24's & one 64 to start  
> >>>>> with?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When ordering from McMaster, an order placed by 5pm typically  
> >>>>> arrives
> >>>>> by next business day afternoon (works better if you communicate that
> >>>>> we're a bus/org, personal orders can take 2 days). I guess Weds  
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> be the earliest we could get these if we so chose...and we'd need a
> >>>>> reliable receiving person & address.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The page Jim linked looks interesting too. Stackable larger bins  
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> be nice. The nesting bins we currently have (donated by dpc, thx)
> >>>>> could be a part of the solution...one thought was to mount to a wall
> >>>>> some sort of rail that hooks into the top rear grooves of these bins
> >>>>> and a ledge/shelf to support the bottoms.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- 
> >>>>> John Magolske
> >>>>> http://B79.net/contact
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