[Build] Sprucing up the classrooms

kjs bfb at riseup.net
Wed Sep 17 21:17:25 UTC 2014


Thanks for putting this list together. I'll pick up the projector/ceiling mount for the hackatorium. 

On September 17, 2014 1:30:46 PM PDT, daravinne <daravinne at gmail.com> wrote:
>I can do an order from monoprice/amazon and start to pick up all the
>cables
>and stuff that is pretty generic/static.  i don't think we need
>appletv,
>chromecast is sufficient....we have chromecast at work and half the
>time
>people just plug the damn cable in anyway.
>
>On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a decent plan.
>>
>> I think you could get away with not having the Apple TVs in the works
>at
>> all -- just a Chromecast -- because I have found Airplay to be
>extremely
>> finicky.  I have 2 Apple TVs and they just don't work reliably enough
>for
>> the cost.
>>
>> You can do Chromecast from a Mac anyway.  It's not as elegant, but
>it's a
>> projector, so who cares?
>>
>> With Apple TVs out of the wishlist, that's $300 less you'd have to
>spend.
>>
>> I don't think $3000 is out of the question to build this stuff out,
>though
>> -- especially if it's built as true infrastructure (hard to remove or
>> "hack" in place).
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Naomi Most <naomi at nthmost.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>> That's a decent plan.
>>>
>>> I think you could get away with not having the Apple TVs in the
>works at
>>> all -- just a Chromecast -- because I have found Airplay to be
>extremely
>>> finicky.  I have 2 Apple TVs and they just don't work reliably
>enough for
>>> the cost.
>>>
>>> You can do Chromecast from a Mac anyway.  It's not as elegant, but
>it's a
>>> projector, so who cares?
>>>
>>> With Apple TVs out of the wishlist, that's $300 less you'd have to
>spend.
>>>
>>> I don't think $3000 is out of the question to build this stuff out,
>>> though -- especially if it's built as true infrastructure (hard to
>remove
>>> or "hack" in place).
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> An update.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately still waiting to get paid, in turn much of this is on
>hold
>>>> until that happens.
>>>>
>>>> I've put together an items list and budget on the AV overhaul...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qejFd2i-m7vqtH7W8DB6hjXgj5ZCfCq0cY8KXVt8Q80/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> The general idea with these setups is to make it as easy and
>consistent
>>>> as possible for someone to walk into a classroom and throw images
>up to
>>>> the screen without looking for parts to make the thing go, while
>making
>>>> it as obnoxious as possibly for cables and gear to walk off and get
>lost
>>>> in other parts of Noisebridge.
>>>>
>>>> I've decided that having a Chromecast and an AppleTV in the mix for
>each
>>>> projector will make it stupid easy for someone to open up their
>laptop
>>>> or phone and start a presentation for a class without ever needing
>to
>>>> figure out how to plug a cable into the system. The metal junction
>box
>>>> basically acts as an anchor point for all cables and to prevent the
>>>> AppleTV, Chromecast, and HDMI switcher to walk off. There'll be a
>combo
>>>> lock on the box, combination shared out to those who ask nicely and
>have
>>>> good reason to need to get into the box. Once the thing is locked
>up,
>>>> there really isn't a need to get in unless a cable goes bad.
>>>>
>>>> Monoprice has some extremely affordable speakers (under $100 with
>amp)
>>>> that I think will work well for the Hackatorium, and the provided
>budget
>>>> mixer will be cable locked down to a angled podium or something
>above
>>>> the junction box. A pair of cheap mics and cables can be stored in
>the
>>>> junction box for usage when needed (and now you don't have to hunt
>down
>>>> shit to make 5 Minutes of Fame or Dorkbot go).
>>>>
>>>> The projectors I've listed are as cheap as I could find them for
>the
>>>> throw distance, offer pretty good lamp life and lumens, and the one
>for
>>>> the Hackatorium can be pointed fairly close to the screen.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, unsurprisingly it's a lot of money. about $1000 for each
>>>> classroom and $1600 for the Hackatorium. Some of this gear we'll be
>able
>>>> to find use on Ebay or cheaper elsewhere, and I'm sure there are
>>>> components and other things I'm forgetting, so consider these
>budgets as
>>>> ballpark but pretty close to end cost.
>>>>
>>>> I personally think enabling teacher and presents to have a fairly
>easy
>>>> time to get into the space and have their class happen is extremely
>>>> important to making Noisebridge more of a functional space. And so
>I'm
>>>> willing to cover a little more than about half the costs here,
>which'll
>>>> either cover the classrooms or just the Hackatorium. I'm wondering
>if
>>>> there are other avenues available to get money thrown into this
>pot? I
>>>> have no idea if any money from the crowd funding campaign was
>budgeted
>>>> for this sort of stuff (actually doubtful as I'm pretty sure
>dealing
>>>> with electrical is going to be a lot). Are others interested in
>throwing
>>>> in some funds to make this happen?
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rubin
>>>> rubin at starset.net
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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