[Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up

lilia liliakai at gmail.com
Wed Aug 12 18:01:26 UTC 2015


I took the shuttle today and it was totally fine even though it was packed
solid and I had a giant rolly suitcase. Just make sure to increment the
counter that corresponds to you train. (See link from OP.)
On Aug 12, 2015 6:26 PM, "Ben Rupert" <meowdip at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ben, I am coming in on a train tomorrow with Steven Dee and Cypher Punk.
> We'll be at Gransee sometime between 11:00 and 12:00.  We'll know an exact
> time once we're made it to the train station.  Any chance that we could
> take you up on this offer since there will be three NOPE people arriving
> together (and hopefully therefore and efficient and worthwhile trip)?  Or
> do you think that the official shuttle will be just fine?
>
> Thanks,
> Other Ben
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>
>> Sorry I wasn't clear.
>>
>> This shuttle would only be for Gransee -> camp.  It's 2.5 hours
>> round-trip to Berlin, which is very expensive considering gas is
>> $5-6/gallon here. Not to mention a huge waste of time.
>>
>> -ben
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Ben Kochie wrote:
>>
>> I'm borrowing a car from a coworker (who is also going up to camp).  I
>>> can not drive it, but we have a few people who can.  We can provide an
>>> on-demand shuttle if necessary.  It's a VW polo, so it's not super high
>>> capacity, but should be enough to get 3 people to camp at a time.
>>>
>>> -ben
>>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Casey Callendrello wrote:
>>>
>>> It's very good that Orga is running these shuttle buses. I've actually
>>>> done some cycling up by
>>>> the Ziegeleipark, and it is definitely quite empty out there.
>>>>
>>>> I plan to pick a time on Wednesday that has a few people already, sign
>>>> up for that shuttle, and
>>>> go to camp. If somehow that fails, I'll just get a taxi, but I speak
>>>> German. If you want to
>>>> ride with, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> As for Zehdenick, it's a one-stoplight town. I almost got stranded
>>>> there because the tiny train
>>>> only had room for 3 bikes. We gaijin-smashed our way on somehow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/7/15 3:46 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>>>>       Sven figured out the best routes for public transit from Berlin
>>>> to Camp -- 90
>>>>       minutes:
>>>>       http://guckes.net/camp/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>       From: rubin at starset.net
>>>>       Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:29:14 +0200
>>>>       To: congress at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>       Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up
>>>>
>>>>       There was also this blog post about shuttles from Berlin...
>>>> https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin
>>>>
>>>> One thing I'd like to remind folks is that once you start wandering out
>>>> of Berlin, the
>>>> number of English speakers drastically drops. People still tend to be
>>>> friendly, but will
>>>> get annoyed enough to ignore you if you continue to try to speak in
>>>> English to them and
>>>> they've made it clear that isn't something they're into. So if you do
>>>> opt to grab one of
>>>> the actually local municipal buses, be sure you've got an German
>>>> speaker with you who can
>>>> call to make the reservation and also be your spirit animal riding it.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally the local buses are more like a minivan and can only fit 8
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 August 2015 at 09:00, Christoph Maier <christoph.maier at ieee.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>       reiseauskunft.bahn.de says:
>>>>       Zehdenick Bahnhof Mi, 12.08.15 ab 19:00   Bus 838 Bus Richtung:
>>>> Tornow
>>>>       Altes Schloß, Fürstenberg (Havel)
>>>>       Rufbus, Tel. (03306) 2307 Anmeldung mind. 90 Min. vor
>>>> Fahrtantritt. ,
>>>>       keine Fahrradbeförderung möglich Mildenberg Ziegeleipark,
>>>> Zehdenick
>>>>       Mi, 12.08.15 an 19:06
>>>>
>>>>       that the bus from Zehdenick station to Mildenberg Ziegeleipark is
>>>>       on-demand and must be scheduled at least 90 minutes before using
>>>> it.
>>>>       This is still regular public transportation.
>>>>
>>>>       On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ronald Miloh Alexander
>>>>       <froggytoad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>       > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:28:10PM -0700, lilia wrote:
>>>>       >> There's a big table here for shuttle signups but not a lot of
>>>> details:
>>>>       >>
>>>> https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >> Does anybody know about this service from previous years? Is
>>>> this distinct
>>>>       >> from the public bus service? If I increment the appropriate
>>>> counter, will
>>>>       >> there magically be a ride waiting for me? Is it cost money?
>>>> Reliable? Or
>>>>       >> like wtf?
>>>>       >
>>>>       > I think the shuttles you write of are free for campers and
>>>> orga-run.
>>>>       > German reliability index is high. There is also a local region
>>>> bus,
>>>>       > 854, that runs a few times a day and includes a stop
>>>> 'Mildenberg,
>>>>       > Ziegelpark' on its route. This is mentioned in the notes
>>>> following the
>>>>       > table. PDF WARN
>>>>       >
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf
>>>>       >
>>>>       > I got acquainted with Gransee Banhoff:
>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6
>>>>       > Notice train/bus transit options from this station include
>>>> 'RE5'.
>>>>       > Still can't understand why shuttles aren't run from Zehdenick,
>>>> it must
>>>>       > be because train frequency is lower to that station but it still
>>>>       > looked hourly (in schedule) to me. Perhaps the train operates
>>>> fewer
>>>>       > hours for week to that town
>>>>       >
>>>>       > I didn't shuttle before when the camp was in Finowfurt -- but
>>>> Gransee
>>>>       > is 12km from site, this looks like an orga run shuttle timed to
>>>> the
>>>>       > arrival of the frequent (hourly?) Berlin/Potsdamer platz 'RE5'
>>>> train
>>>>       > in Gransee.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > For arrival on the 11th and 12th, it looks like RE 4358 at
>>>> 13:26 is
>>>>       > winning.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > Perhaps Mitch knows more about this?
>>>>       >
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