[Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up

Casey Callendrello c1 at caseyc.net
Wed Aug 12 17:49:53 UTC 2015


Definitely just take the shuttle. It's just fine.
-c

On 8/12/15 6:25 PM, Ben Rupert wrote:
> Ben, I am coming in on a train tomorrow with Steven Dee and Cypher
> Punk.  We'll be at Gransee sometime between 11:00 and 12:00.  We'll
> know an exact time once we're made it to the train station.  Any
> chance that we could take you up on this offer since there will be
> three NOPE people arriving together (and hopefully therefore and
> efficient and worthwhile trip)?  Or do you think that the official
> shuttle will be just fine?
>
> Thanks,
> Other Ben
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net
> <mailto:ben at nerp.net>> wrote:
>
>     Sorry I wasn't clear.
>
>     This shuttle would only be for Gransee -> camp.  It's 2.5 hours
>     round-trip to Berlin, which is very expensive considering gas is
>     $5-6/gallon here. Not to mention a huge waste of time.
>
>     -ben
>
>
>     On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Ben Kochie wrote:
>
>         I'm borrowing a car from a coworker (who is also going up to
>         camp).  I can not drive it, but we have a few people who can. 
>         We can provide an on-demand shuttle if necessary.  It's a VW
>         polo, so it's not super high capacity, but should be enough to
>         get 3 people to camp at a time.
>
>         -ben
>
>         On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Casey Callendrello wrote:
>
>             It's very good that Orga is running these shuttle buses.
>             I've actually done some cycling up by
>             the Ziegeleipark, and it is definitely quite empty out there.
>
>             I plan to pick a time on Wednesday that has a few people
>             already, sign up for that shuttle, and
>             go to camp. If somehow that fails, I'll just get a taxi,
>             but I speak German. If you want to
>             ride with, let me know.
>
>             As for Zehdenick, it's a one-stoplight town. I almost got
>             stranded there because the tiny train
>             only had room for 3 bikes. We gaijin-smashed our way on
>             somehow.
>
>
>             On 8/7/15 3:46 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>                   Sven figured out the best routes for public transit
>             from Berlin to Camp -- 90
>                   minutes:
>                   http://guckes.net/camp/
>
>                    
>
>             _______________________________________________________________________________________________
>                   From: rubin at starset.net <mailto:rubin at starset.net>
>                   Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:29:14 +0200
>                   To: congress at lists.noisebridge.net
>             <mailto:congress at lists.noisebridge.net>
>                   Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up
>
>                   There was also this blog post about shuttles from
>             Berlin...
>             https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/
>
>             https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin
>
>             One thing I'd like to remind folks is that once you start
>             wandering out of Berlin, the
>             number of English speakers drastically drops. People still
>             tend to be friendly, but will
>             get annoyed enough to ignore you if you continue to try to
>             speak in English to them and
>             they've made it clear that isn't something they're into.
>             So if you do opt to grab one of
>             the actually local municipal buses, be sure you've got an
>             German speaker with you who can
>             call to make the reservation and also be your spirit
>             animal riding it.
>
>             Additionally the local buses are more like a minivan and
>             can only fit 8 people.
>
>
>             On 7 August 2015 at 09:00, Christoph Maier
>             <christoph.maier at ieee.org
>             <mailto:christoph.maier at ieee.org>> wrote:
>                   reiseauskunft.bahn.de <http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de>
>             says:
>                   Zehdenick Bahnhof Mi, 12.08.15 ab 19:00   Bus 838
>             Bus Richtung: Tornow
>                   Altes Schloß, Fürstenberg (Havel)
>                   Rufbus, Tel. (03306) 2307 Anmeldung mind. 90 Min.
>             vor Fahrtantritt. ,
>                   keine Fahrradbeförderung möglich Mildenberg
>             Ziegeleipark, Zehdenick
>                   Mi, 12.08.15 an 19:06
>
>                   that the bus from Zehdenick station to Mildenberg
>             Ziegeleipark is
>                   on-demand and must be scheduled at least 90 minutes
>             before using it.
>                   This is still regular public transportation.
>
>                   On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ronald Miloh Alexander
>                   <froggytoad at gmail.com <mailto:froggytoad at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>                   > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:28:10PM -0700, lilia wrote:
>                   >> There's a big table here for shuttle signups but
>             not a lot of details:
>                   >>
>             https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee
>                   >>
>                   >> Does anybody know about this service from
>             previous years? Is this distinct
>                   >> from the public bus service? If I increment the
>             appropriate counter, will
>                   >> there magically be a ride waiting for me? Is it
>             cost money? Reliable? Or
>                   >> like wtf?
>                   >
>                   > I think the shuttles you write of are free for
>             campers and orga-run.
>                   > German reliability index is high. There is also a
>             local region bus,
>                   > 854, that runs a few times a day and includes a
>             stop 'Mildenberg,
>                   > Ziegelpark' on its route. This is mentioned in the
>             notes following the
>                   > table. PDF WARN
>                   >
>                  
>             http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf
>                   >
>                   > I got acquainted with Gransee Banhoff:
>             https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6
>                   > Notice train/bus transit options from this station
>             include 'RE5'.
>                   > Still can't understand why shuttles aren't run
>             from Zehdenick, it must
>                   > be because train frequency is lower to that
>             station but it still
>                   > looked hourly (in schedule) to me. Perhaps the
>             train operates fewer
>                   > hours for week to that town
>                   >
>                   > I didn't shuttle before when the camp was in
>             Finowfurt -- but Gransee
>                   > is 12km from site, this looks like an orga run
>             shuttle timed to the
>                   > arrival of the frequent (hourly?) Berlin/Potsdamer
>             platz 'RE5' train
>                   > in Gransee.
>                   >
>                   > For arrival on the 11th and 12th, it looks like RE
>             4358 at 13:26 is
>                   > winning.
>                   >
>                   > Perhaps Mitch knows more about this?
>                   >
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