[Cyborg] flexible EL in shoes

Eric Boyd mrericboyd at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 9 21:06:23 UTC 2010

A lot of wearable stuff really doesn't photo well, it's such a shame, 
cause it looks so awesome in person.  I'm curious to hear how your 
diffusion plans work out.


On 11/9/10 12:33 PM, kristinneidlinger wrote:
> hi all,
> I have been futzing with RGB LEDs too.
> Eric, I have the same problem with them. They are best displayed in the
> dark, but then when you take photos it like monsters of rock.
> The light shines from below onto the face and well, it's creepy.
> I am now using cotton bating and fused plastic to diffuse them. I'll
> post this stuff soon...and I'll bring it in to NB to get some feedback.
> !
> kristin
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com
> <mailto:sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     I'll try to come by and say hi next time I'm in Toronto! (I go there
>     for work a *lot*...should be there end of this month)
>     The wizard staff was sweet BTW. Interesting to hear that the RGB
>     LEDs still needed super darkness to work. Although I'm using white
>     LEDs to get the best brightness bag for my power input buck, it
>     sounds like it may be unlikely to see mine in daylight too (doh).
>     I'm hoping at the very least though I'll have a sweet light up tron
>     suit that looks respectable when its not pitch black (the EL wire
>     version looked pretty shitty in normal lighting - mostly because you
>     could see all the wires coming off the suit in areas where your body
>     bends too much :) ).
>     I have a blog/website in the making that I'm throwing all my maker
>     stuff on. It should be done soon, and I'll start posting the how-tos
>     on this guy there.
>     Sean
>     On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Eric Boyd <mrericboyd at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:mrericboyd at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>         Wow, that sounds so awesome.  I'm living in Toronto now but I'd
>         love to see blog posts or videos about your work on this. Are
>         you trying to have the costume ready for the opening night so
>         you can dress up for it?
>         My wizard staff had the same kind of problems with strong light
>         - the 1 watt white LEDs are strong enough to be seen in bright
>         indoor light, but the RGBs just can't be properly seen unless
>         it's club-level dark.  And that's already using TWO
>         "super-bright" RGBs.  I'm actually thinking for next time it
>         might be better to just use multiple white LEDs and have some
>         e.g. tissue-paper filters.
>         Eric
>         On 11/9/10 11:17 AM, Sean Cusack wrote:
>             FYI Eric - its the 17th in the US too! Anyways, I have/had a
>             tron v1
>             suit that used EL as the base technology. It was pretty cool
>             on a lot of
>             levels, but it just wasn't robust. It was difficult to wash
>             (I had to do
>             it by hand in my bathtub to prevent it from kinking too
>             badly), and in
>             order to keep the bend radius wide enough around the elbows
>             and whatnot,
>             the EL wire had to come off the suit quite a ways. Also EL
>             just ain't
>             that bright. It looks awesome in a dark room, but you just
>             can't see it
>             in daylight. Also, hiding EL inverters in clothing is an
>             interesting
>             trick (I plan on trying to make a soft circuit version of
>             one of these
>             soon btw to conquer that problem at least).
>             Although its totally awesome that this stuff conquers (sort
>             of) some of
>             the washability problem, its a shame it doesn't fix the
>             underlying
>             brightness problem, or the inverter problem. On a sidenote,
>             I'm making a
>             tron v2 suit (using the new movie designs), but with silicone
>             encapsulated LED strips as the underlying tech (they look to
>             be quite
>             bendy and waterproof).
>             I've laser cut faux leather in the required patterns. This
>             will get
>             attached to an old base layer I have from REI (really thin
>             cotton/spandex that wicks moisture like mad). and then am
>             going to mount
>             the silicone LED strips under the leather, on the backside
>             of the base
>             layer (facing up towards the leather). The kicker is, I'll
>             have the LEDs
>             slightly offset underneath the leather bits, so you can't
>             see the direct
>             light of the LEDs, but you can see the diffuse glow. I've
>             tested this
>             out (just yesterday), and as long as the shirt is
>             nip-hugging tight,
>             this works great - the LED strips form to your body, but
>             also act as
>             "risers", pushing the base shirt up from your skin just a
>             tad, thus
>             creating a little pocket of air between your skin and the
>             shirt where
>             you can get a sexy, diffuse, *bright*, glow.
>             I've got the laser work done now, so I'll probably be doing
>             a fair
>             amount of the assembly at noisebridge. If anyone is
>             interested in
>             observing, lemme know!
>             Sean
>                 On Nov 9, 2010 6:21 AM, "Eric Boyd"
>                 <mrericboyd at yahoo.com <mailto:mrericboyd at yahoo.com>
>                 <mailto:mrericboyd at yahoo.com
>                 <mailto:mrericboyd at yahoo.com>>> wrote:
>                 http://www.fashioningtech.com/profiles/blogs/flexible-el-for-wearable-tech
>                 They look damn sharp, I'd love to have a pair.  Can't
>                 seem to find them
>                 for sale though, must still be in product development.
>                   Actually I found
>                 a page which said they should be available when the
>                 movie is in
>                 theatres, that's supposed to be Dec 17th (in Canada).
>                 See also Janet Hansen's shoes:
>                 http://www.enlighted.com/pages/shoes.shtml
>                 Eric
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