[Cyborg] Cyborg/fyborg tails!
Thomas Coleman
dontac at gmail.com
Wed Nov 17 21:08:54 UTC 2010
Ahh memories...you should've seen it when I jacked up the speed as high as
it would go, I kept tensing up so much I couldn't stop lol. The development
kit is pretty fancy, it includes a bunch of extra tools and is mostly geared
towards companies. The sensor by itself, on the other hand, is something I
can offer heavily discounted...say $100-200 each, with volume discounts.
Call it a hackerspace special :)
~Tom
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>
> Wow, that's super awesome! I'd love to play with these sensors! I
> found your mind controlled wheel chair video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQv61899HE
>
> Unfortunately the company seems to want $2k for the development kit.
> Can you swing us a deal somehow? Or do you still have rights to the
> underlying tech that you could open source?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On 11/16/10 12:41 AM, Thomas Coleman wrote:
> > Heya all,
> >
> > I'm the Thomas Coleman mentioned below, sorry for the delay responding.
> > The sensors mentioned by Mikolaj are derived from the core technology
> > behind the Audeo (http://www.theaudeo.com). They input three signals
> > from the surface of the skin (and power/ground), and output a unipolar
> > digital signal corresponding to the level of muscle activity. Bigger
> > muscle activity, bigger byte value. The cool thing is I originally
> > designed them to detect the extremely low level signals of people no
> > longer able to produce detectable activity, like locked in ALS patients.
> > This means they can pick up signals so weak nobody can tell you're even
> > doing anything to trigger them. It takes some self-training to reliably
> > control your signals like that, but once you get it you can do all kinds
> > of cool/spooky things (somewhere out there is a youtube vid of me evilly
> > cruising in a wheelchair among other things hehe). Anyways, long story
> > short the sensors he was talking about are more hacker-friendly than
> > furry-specific. They're reliable, sensitive, RF immune, tiny, and can
> > even use steel as skin contacts. Sorry I'm kinda proud of my babies :)
> >
> > ~T
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Mikolaj Habryn <dichro at rcpt.to
> > <mailto:dichro at rcpt.to>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sorry for vanishing after that tantalizing message :P I'm mid-travel
> > (and
> > mostly mid-travail, as well).
> >
> > I didn't design the sensors; they're being done by one Thomas
> > Coleman, who
> > also does EMG stuff professionally. The current prototype is a
> > single sensor
> > (three-lead) differential amplifier plus microcontroller in a small,
> > sealed
> > 8-pin module that outputs serial. I've pointed him at this thread, so
> > hopefully he'll have a chance to weigh in with more detail.
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Tomm <tomm.fire at gmail.com
> > <mailto:tomm.fire at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Nov. 7th works for me. I have some new hardware
> > > to show off from my ultrasound project, might even
> > > be able to show it all working (!).
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 10/24/10 11:30 PM, ch_luk at berkeley.edu
> > <mailto:ch_luk at berkeley.edu> wrote:
> > > > Hi Sarah,
> > > >
> > > > Your work is really neat! Would you be willing to show us
> > some of it
> > > at
> > > > a future cyborg meeting, perhaps next month? We hold monthly-ish
> > > > meetings Sunday afternoons starting at 4 pm in the Noisebridge
> > space
> > > > (2169 Mission St). Might Nov. 7 or 21 work for you?
> > > >
> > > > To the local Bay Area cyborgs, who's free Nov. 7 or Nov. 21?
> > (I'm at a
> > > > conference Nov. 14.) It'd be great to have everyone
> > show-and-tell their
> > > > current work. Automated zebrafish heartbeat sensing, Todd? Eric
> > and I
> > > > should have a complete pulse choker prototype for you to try on
> > by then.
> > > > =)
> > > >
> > > > To the remote cyborgs, book your plane tickets and visit! ;)
> > Also,
> > > what
> > > > makes the EMG sensor you speak of specific for furry-tech,
> Mikolaj?
> > > >
> > > > Sarah, does wanting to add electronic eyelashes or wings
> > count in the
> > > > adding-limbs-that-humans-don't-normally-have genre?
> > > >
> > > > Smiles,
> > > > Chung-Hay
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I have some EMG stuff queued up to work on too. I met a
> > gentleman at
> > > PS:1
> > > >> a
> > > >> few months ago and we got each other enthusiastic enough that
> > he has
> > > >> prototyped up some EMG sensors specifically for furry-tech
> > applications
> > > (I
> > > >> was going to start with articulated pointy ears, but tails were
> > > definitely
> > > >> on the wistfully desired list :). I'll be funding an initial
> > run of
> > > >> sensors
> > > >> (probably no more than a dozen or so) when I get back to NYC;
> > would be
> > > >> happy
> > > >> to send some to Noisebridge for experimentation if they'd be of
> > > interest.
> > > >>
> > > >> m.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Sarah Nordstrom
> > > >> <sarahemm at sarahemm.net <mailto:sarahemm at sarahemm.net>>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I was talking to Rachel (apologies if I've misspelled your
> > name) at
> > > >>> Noisebridge a couple days back, and we got talking about
> > tails. I
> > > >>> started
> > > >>> working on a tail with gyros and accelerometers in it a
> > couple years
> > > >>> back,
> > > >>> to assist with balance (my inner ears don't work properly),
> > and have
> > > >>> been
> > > >>> inspired to start working on that again! :) I said I'd post
> > the links I
> > > >>> was talking about, so here they are:
> > > >>> The howto pages I talked about are at
> > > >>> http://www.wolftronix.com/howto.htm
> > > >>> and the bionic tail (using EMG data to control a tail)
> > project is at
> > > >>> http://www.wolftronix.com/biotail/biotail.htm.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Anyone else interested in tails or other types of
> > > >>> adding-limbs-that-humans-don't-normally-have? (or even limbs
> > humans
> > > *do*
> > > >>> normally have?)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Sarah
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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