[Digitalarchivists] Off Topic...

Thu Jun 5 19:27:01 UTC 2014

I need to borrow a set of Mac OS X Snow Leopard installation disks, if any
of you coming to the meeting tonight have any you can bring.  I've been
ramming my head into the triple boot hackintosh wall for the past two days
to absolutely no avail.  The provider of said disks, copies of said disks,
or a lesson in multibooting that explains why I don't need them at all,
will be remunerated with their choice of bottled or canned liquid bread

See you tonight,

-Danny

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:22 AM, brandon hopkins <bphpkns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Works for me.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> works for me
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Dany Qumsiyeh <dany at qhex.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think 8pm would be best, then. Is that too late for anyone?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hey everyone,
>>> >
>>> > I have to stay late at the office this Thursday and won't be able to
>>> make it
>>> > out until 8:00. Do you guys still want to start the meeting at 7:00 or
>>> > delay? I'm okay either way.
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 2, 2014 4:45 PM, "John Shutt" <john.d.shutt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 06/02/2014 02:41 PM, Vinay Pimple wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> It's great that Miloh will help. I understand that people are excited
>>> >> about moving on this asap. But may be we should spend some time
>>> making sure
>>> >> of our design, and about what we want from our machine, before we go
>>> for a
>>> >> prototype.
>>> >>
>>> >> The camera scanner I brought last time has a simple and neat design,
>>> but
>>> >> it may be that we want something else. Unfortunately, I can't tell how
>>> >> something is designed unless I can feel it so (I can't do it from the
>>> web).
>>> >> So, can some of you check out this alternative (cost is $1500).
>>> >> https://www.gwmicro.com/Catalog/Reading_Systems/?moreInfo=8170-003
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, can you guys check camera scanners on Google or on Ali Baba (I
>>> know
>>> >> Ali Baba has several) to check if there are other interesting designs
>>> and
>>> >> features out there?
>>> >>
>>> >> I am trying to find out about licensing issues with FineReader, and
>>> what
>>> >> kind of camera app they have (I think they have one). Too bad I can't
>>> make
>>> >> it this Thursday, but I am looking forward to your minutes, and to
>>> meeting
>>> >> you all next Thursday.
>>> >>
>>> >> Vinay
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/1/2014 7:17 PM, John Shutt wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Good news everyone! Miloh is psyched about the portable scanner and
>>> >> offered to loan us a 3D printer and maybe help with CAD stuff. More
>>> soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>> >>
>>> >> On May 28, 2014 12:05 PM, "John Shutt" <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 05/28/2014 11:49 AM, Andrew Defries wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On average a book of 6-800 pages can be 2-3 gb. SD cards are a good
>>> >>> option as they are fast.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:59 AM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I have an SD card we could use, too. I guess we don't really need an
>>> >>>> external hard drive for the test, I was just thinking ahead towards
>>> when we
>>> >>>> would be scanning continuously for hours and what kind of equipment
>>> we would
>>> >>>> need for that.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On May 28, 2014 12:27 AM, "Dany Qumsiyeh" <dany at qhex.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Do you need something to boot from? I have an SD card prepared for
>>> a
>>> >>>>> Raspberrry Pi. If you want to test saving images to an external
>>> drive,
>>> >>>>> we could just try a flash drive.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:37 PM, John Shutt <
>>> john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> > I would just need a tiny bit of space, to test with the
>>> Raspberry Pi.
>>> >>>>> > If all
>>> >>>>> > goes well, we could talk about getting a dedicated external for
>>> the
>>> >>>>> > books
>>> >>>>> > we're scanning (which we would probably keep offsite, like the
>>> >>>>> > cameras).
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Vinay Pimple
>>> >>>>> > <vinay.pimple at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> I have a few hard drives, but what do you need on them? If you
>>> just
>>> >>>>> >> need
>>> >>>>> >> space, how much are you thinking?
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> I have attached the jpgs ocred with my ocr. I have the doc and
>>> txt
>>> >>>>> >> of each
>>> >>>>> >> jpg.
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> I made 2 tries at one of the pages: one with and the other
>>> without
>>> >>>>> >> columns. The txt files look the same in both versions, but the
>>> word
>>> >>>>> >> files
>>> >>>>> >> may be different (one of the word files versions is
>>> inaccessible, so
>>> >>>>> >> I
>>> >>>>> >> assume the two are different).
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Sorry I’ve named the pages 1, 2, and 3, but since there are
>>> only 2
>>> >>>>> >> pages,
>>> >>>>> >> it shouldn’t be a problem.
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>         Vinay
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> On 5/27/2014 10:40 PM, John Shutt wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Nice! We're all set there. (Adding Dany back to the thread --
>>> >>>>> >> somehow got
>>> >>>>> >> dropped in the last reply-all.) Anyone have an external hard
>>> drive?
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Defries
>>> >>>>> >> <andrew.defries at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> I have the 4 way.
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:11 PM, John Shutt
>>> >>>>> >>> <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> Cool! We could probably do this experiment live at the
>>> meeting, as
>>> >>>>> >>>> well.
>>> >>>>> >>>> I'm bringing my Raspberry Pi so we can think about it as a
>>> >>>>> >>>> dedicated
>>> >>>>> >>>> terminal. Anyone have a USB hub? I think we need at least four
>>> >>>>> >>>> connections
>>> >>>>> >>>> total: Two for cameras, one for keyboard, and one for an
>>> external
>>> >>>>> >>>> hard
>>> >>>>> >>>> drive.
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> John
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> On May 27, 2014 7:26 PM, "Andrew Defries"
>>> >>>>> >>>> <andrew.defries at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Attached are a two images for Vinay to try OCR on. We can
>>> compare
>>> >>>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>> >>>>> result at the next meeting?
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>> The input image is raw and has not been rotated.
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> --
>>> >>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> >>>>> >>> Andrew Defries
>>> >>>>> >>> Lab of Michael Pirrung
>>> >>>>> >>> University of California Riverside
>>> >>>>> >>> Botany and Plant Sciences
>>> >>>>> >>> 2150 Batchelor Hall
>>> >>>>> >>> Riverside, CA 92521
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> (Phone)        951-827-6991
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> >>> Andrew Defries
>>> >>> Lab of Michael Pirrung
>>> >>> University of California Riverside
>>> >>> Botany and Plant Sciences
>>> >>> 2150 Batchelor Hall
>>> >>> Riverside, CA 92521
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (Phone)        951-827-6991
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hmm, I was thinking about SD cards mainly in terms of running
>>> Raspbian
>>> >>> (or whatever minimal Linux distro) on the Pi itself. Are they faster
>>> to
>>> >>> write to than flash drives?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree, we should review a lot of existing scanners before designing
>>> a
>>> >> prototype. I've started looking at scanners on Alibaba and will have
>>> some
>>> >> more thoughts coming into the meeting.
>>> >>
>>> >> Some more news: I went to an Internet Archive event yesterday and
>>> talked a
>>> >> bit with Tom McCarty, who designed their Scribe machines. He
>>> encouraged us
>>> >> to look at stainless steel as a more durable product material and
>>> could
>>> >> point us to some CNC shops in the East Bay. Something to think about
>>> after
>>> >> we've iterated a few times on 3D-printed prototypes. He also has a
>>> bunch of
>>> >> leftover scanner glass that we might be able to use for our tabletop
>>> book
>>> >> scanner.
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Danny Newman
>>
>> *Founder*
>> Sociedad Micológica de Bolivia
>> www.kallampas.org
>>
>> *Librarian*
>> Mycological Society of San Francisco
>> www.mssf.org
>>
>> *Parataxonomist*
>> Desjardin Lab, Harry D. Thiers Herbarium
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://is.gd/Xp5Trj : http://is.gd/89lBCh
>>
>
>

-- 
Danny Newman

*Founder*
Sociedad Micológica de Bolivia
www.kallampas.org

*Librarian*
Mycological Society of San Francisco
www.mssf.org

*Parataxonomist*
Desjardin Lab, Harry D. Thiers Herbarium
San Francisco State University
http://is.gd/Xp5Trj : http://is.gd/89lBCh
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