[Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
Shannon Lee
shannon at scatter.com
Tue Nov 18 00:37:54 UTC 2008
Someone will just steal the camera.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Alex Perez <aperez at alexperez.com> wrote:
> Speaking of which, have we ever considered mounting a low-lux B&W camera up
> high overlooking the alleyway? For insurance reasons, this would majorly
> cover our ass if we were ever robbed, and it may or may not discourage
> aggregate crackhead behavior in the immediate vicinity. I am sure someone
> will have an objection to this, but it's hard to argue that crackhead-alley
> is low-crime.
>
> On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
>
> And bear in mind that we have a universal garbage disposal: anything left
> outside will be sold for crack money in under 9000 milliseconds.
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> one element that seems raised is that of "us"
>> "accepting".
>> any one of "us" can bring in stuff, which is,
>> by the fact of its appearance, "accepted".
>>
>> seems to me good that we collectively keep an
>> eye on things and as long as we can manage (by
>> taking overage to ACCRC or other places, including
>> the dumps), continue "accepting".
>> an unpleasant alternative is that of creating
>> the acceptance police. better to keep up a good
>> janitorial and organizing effort. that and active
>> hacking and repurposing of the accepted.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 16:07 -0800, Mitch Altman wrote:
>> > Reality check -- please be aware that we have a very small space, and
>> > stuff piles up very quickly. If folks (such as Jim?) are willing to
>> > make regular runs to ACCRC and dump unused stuff (if ACCRC is willing
>> > to take it from us) then that would work out dandy. But if stuff
>> > starts to pile up, our hacker space will become a crowded heap
>> > of not-very-usable electonic stuff.
>> >
>> > My experience with this comes from one of my volunteer projects as a
>> > computer refurbisher (under the name of Online Policy Group, another
>> > 501(c)(3) org) -- being a very small version of ACCRC: collecing
>> > computers and parts and putting together nice computer systems and
>> > giving them away for free to non-profit groups and low-income folks.
>> > I'm very careful about what I accept now-a-days, since back in the
>> > early days I'd accept pretty much anything that seemed cool, and
>> > before long I had 2 huge overloaded U-Hauls full of 5000 pounds of
>> > stuff I couldn't use. ACCRC graciously saved me by accepting the 2
>> > huge overloaded U-Hauls full without charging me anything (they said
>> > they normally would have charged me $0.50 per pound -- no way I could
>> > have afforded that!).
>> >
>> > Anyways, I'm all for canabalizing for parts. It's fun. It's cool.
>> > And it makes for great, free parts. But we need to be conscious of
>> > keeping our small space useable for the zillions of cool projects that
>> > we're all working on there.
>> >
>> > My 2 (or 3) cents.
>> >
>> > Mitch.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________________
>> > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:33:37 -0800
>> > From: danielast at gmail.com
>> > To: jim at well.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
>> > CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I am aware that we dont need more printers but I thought to check
>> > with you before I get rid of 2 printers.
>> >
>> > One is a serial printer multi-function Espson stylus 6600, and
>> > another is a USB multifunction printer Epson stylus CX5200. I am sure
>> > that somebody could make them work or hack. They turn on but the
>> > printing device gives me an error.
>> >
>> > Please let me know if anyone would like to play with them or if I
>> > should take them somewhere else.
>> >
>> > D
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > +1
>> > deconstructing things can yield an often
>> > overlooked class of goodies: fittings and
>> > other mechanical oddments that are impossible
>> > to find at retail stores.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:25 -0800, Jeff Keyzer wrote:
>> > > I personally think that Noisebridge as a whole needs to
>> > rethink what I
>> > > see as a policy of, by default, refusing free stuff.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, the space is small.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, it is a nuisance if someone brings 30 pounds of toxic
>> > waste into
>> > > the space.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, some people are going to use us as a dumping ground for
>> > stuff
>> > > they don't want (and we don't either).
>> > >
>> > > However, telling people that "no, we do not want your stuff"
>> > leaves a
>> > > lasting impression that will still be in the back of their
>> > mind when
>> > > they stumble upon a 40MHz function generator, or a free
>> > logic
>> > > analyzer, or a dual Xeon whatever rack sys in the alley.
>> > Yes, they
>> > > may have mostly worthless junk this time, but maybe next
>> > time they
>> > > will have something that someone in the space actually
>> > wants. My fear
>> > > is that they may choose to donate somewhere else or just
>> > keep on
>> > > walking based on their first interaction with us.
>> > >
>> > > Also, seemingly worthless donations may actually contain
>> > useful parts
>> > > inside. Maybe that Mission-alley-inkjet (you've seen them)
>> > contains
>> > > exactly the right 5mm sprocket someone needs? Maybe the
>> > 20th wall-
>> > > wart we get is actually a decent switching power supply with
>> > > reconfigurable voltage jumpers inside and has just the right
>> > connector
>> > > to go with that thing you're working on?
>> > >
>> > > I think the focus should instead be on how to sell or
>> > re-donate junk
>> > > we don't need and how to dispose of the overflow properly
>> > instead of
>> > > routinely turning donations away.
>> > >
>> > > Tearing down stuff is fun, even if you only end up with a
>> > couple LEDs
>> > > and a stepper motor when you're done.
>> > >
>> > > Jeff Keyzer
>> > > jeff at mightyohm.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I really appreciate you finding more printers. The
>> > question I have
>> > > > is do we want more printers?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I just received an email from a company in LA that wants
>> > to donate
>> > > >> 4 network printers to us. I emailed them saying we could
>> > use them,
>> > > >> and asked them if they could ship them to us in SF (I'm
>> > not sure
>> > > >> they knew we're not in LA area). They said that they are
>> > all in
>> > > >> good working condition.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Mitch.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ------------------
>> > > >> > From: rubin at starset.net
>> > > >> > To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> > > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:15:38 -0800
>> > > >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Rigel and I troubleshooted and got the HP LaserJet
>> > 2200dt
>> > > >> operational.
>> > > >> > It's on the network, information about it and other
>> > printers we add
>> > > >> > into the network later on can be found here...
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Printers
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > The toner provided with the machine was producing
>> > really blotchy
>> > > >> nasty
>> > > >> > printouts. Andy showed me a box containing a different
>> > used toner,
>> > > >> > which I've placed into the machine. It still sort of
>> > sucks, but
>> > > >> not as
>> > > >> > bad as the previous toner, which is now sitting behind
>> > the
>> > > >> printer if
>> > > >> > anyone cares to recycle or throw it out.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I've gone ahead and created a new section in the
>> > Network page on
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > wiki which deals with Network devices and services.
>> > There are
>> > > >> links to
>> > > >> > the Printers page and Music page.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > Rubin Abdi
>> > > >> > Rubin at Starset.net
>> > > >> >
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>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Rubin Abdi
>> > > > Rubin at Starset.net
>> > > >
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