[Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
John Menerick
john.menerick at gmail.com
Tue Nov 18 00:41:48 UTC 2008
Point a camera directly at the alleyway and the lovely neighbor? jk ;-)
That would unsettle her just a bit.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> Someone will just steal the camera.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Alex Perez <aperez at alexperez.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of which, have we ever considered mounting a low-lux B&W camera
>> up high overlooking the alleyway? For insurance reasons, this would majorly
>> cover our ass if we were ever robbed, and it may or may not discourage
>> aggregate crackhead behavior in the immediate vicinity. I am sure someone
>> will have an objection to this, but it's hard to argue that crackhead-alley
>> is low-crime.
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
>>
>> And bear in mind that we have a universal garbage disposal: anything left
>> outside will be sold for crack money in under 9000 milliseconds.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> one element that seems raised is that of "us"
>>> "accepting".
>>> any one of "us" can bring in stuff, which is,
>>> by the fact of its appearance, "accepted".
>>>
>>> seems to me good that we collectively keep an
>>> eye on things and as long as we can manage (by
>>> taking overage to ACCRC or other places, including
>>> the dumps), continue "accepting".
>>> an unpleasant alternative is that of creating
>>> the acceptance police. better to keep up a good
>>> janitorial and organizing effort. that and active
>>> hacking and repurposing of the accepted.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 16:07 -0800, Mitch Altman wrote:
>>> > Reality check -- please be aware that we have a very small space, and
>>> > stuff piles up very quickly. If folks (such as Jim?) are willing to
>>> > make regular runs to ACCRC and dump unused stuff (if ACCRC is willing
>>> > to take it from us) then that would work out dandy. But if stuff
>>> > starts to pile up, our hacker space will become a crowded heap
>>> > of not-very-usable electonic stuff.
>>> >
>>> > My experience with this comes from one of my volunteer projects as a
>>> > computer refurbisher (under the name of Online Policy Group, another
>>> > 501(c)(3) org) -- being a very small version of ACCRC: collecing
>>> > computers and parts and putting together nice computer systems and
>>> > giving them away for free to non-profit groups and low-income folks.
>>> > I'm very careful about what I accept now-a-days, since back in the
>>> > early days I'd accept pretty much anything that seemed cool, and
>>> > before long I had 2 huge overloaded U-Hauls full of 5000 pounds of
>>> > stuff I couldn't use. ACCRC graciously saved me by accepting the 2
>>> > huge overloaded U-Hauls full without charging me anything (they said
>>> > they normally would have charged me $0.50 per pound -- no way I could
>>> > have afforded that!).
>>> >
>>> > Anyways, I'm all for canabalizing for parts. It's fun. It's cool.
>>> > And it makes for great, free parts. But we need to be conscious of
>>> > keeping our small space useable for the zillions of cool projects that
>>> > we're all working on there.
>>> >
>>> > My 2 (or 3) cents.
>>> >
>>> > Mitch.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ______________________________________________________________________
>>> > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:33:37 -0800
>>> > From: danielast at gmail.com
>>> > To: jim at well.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
>>> > CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> >
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > I am aware that we dont need more printers but I thought to check
>>> > with you before I get rid of 2 printers.
>>> >
>>> > One is a serial printer multi-function Espson stylus 6600, and
>>> > another is a USB multifunction printer Epson stylus CX5200. I am sure
>>> > that somebody could make them work or hack. They turn on but the
>>> > printing device gives me an error.
>>> >
>>> > Please let me know if anyone would like to play with them or if I
>>> > should take them somewhere else.
>>> >
>>> > D
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > +1
>>> > deconstructing things can yield an often
>>> > overlooked class of goodies: fittings and
>>> > other mechanical oddments that are impossible
>>> > to find at retail stores.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:25 -0800, Jeff Keyzer wrote:
>>> > > I personally think that Noisebridge as a whole needs to
>>> > rethink what I
>>> > > see as a policy of, by default, refusing free stuff.
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes, the space is small.
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes, it is a nuisance if someone brings 30 pounds of toxic
>>> > waste into
>>> > > the space.
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes, some people are going to use us as a dumping ground for
>>> > stuff
>>> > > they don't want (and we don't either).
>>> > >
>>> > > However, telling people that "no, we do not want your stuff"
>>> > leaves a
>>> > > lasting impression that will still be in the back of their
>>> > mind when
>>> > > they stumble upon a 40MHz function generator, or a free
>>> > logic
>>> > > analyzer, or a dual Xeon whatever rack sys in the alley.
>>> > Yes, they
>>> > > may have mostly worthless junk this time, but maybe next
>>> > time they
>>> > > will have something that someone in the space actually
>>> > wants. My fear
>>> > > is that they may choose to donate somewhere else or just
>>> > keep on
>>> > > walking based on their first interaction with us.
>>> > >
>>> > > Also, seemingly worthless donations may actually contain
>>> > useful parts
>>> > > inside. Maybe that Mission-alley-inkjet (you've seen them)
>>> > contains
>>> > > exactly the right 5mm sprocket someone needs? Maybe the
>>> > 20th wall-
>>> > > wart we get is actually a decent switching power supply with
>>> > > reconfigurable voltage jumpers inside and has just the right
>>> > connector
>>> > > to go with that thing you're working on?
>>> > >
>>> > > I think the focus should instead be on how to sell or
>>> > re-donate junk
>>> > > we don't need and how to dispose of the overflow properly
>>> > instead of
>>> > > routinely turning donations away.
>>> > >
>>> > > Tearing down stuff is fun, even if you only end up with a
>>> > couple LEDs
>>> > > and a stepper motor when you're done.
>>> > >
>>> > > Jeff Keyzer
>>> > > jeff at mightyohm.com
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > I really appreciate you finding more printers. The
>>> > question I have
>>> > > > is do we want more printers?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> I just received an email from a company in LA that wants
>>> > to donate
>>> > > >> 4 network printers to us. I emailed them saying we could
>>> > use them,
>>> > > >> and asked them if they could ship them to us in SF (I'm
>>> > not sure
>>> > > >> they knew we're not in LA area). They said that they are
>>> > all in
>>> > > >> good working condition.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Mitch.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> ------------------
>>> > > >> > From: rubin at starset.net
>>> > > >> > To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> > > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:15:38 -0800
>>> > > >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Rigel and I troubleshooted and got the HP LaserJet
>>> > 2200dt
>>> > > >> operational.
>>> > > >> > It's on the network, information about it and other
>>> > printers we add
>>> > > >> > into the network later on can be found here...
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Printers
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > The toner provided with the machine was producing
>>> > really blotchy
>>> > > >> nasty
>>> > > >> > printouts. Andy showed me a box containing a different
>>> > used toner,
>>> > > >> > which I've placed into the machine. It still sort of
>>> > sucks, but
>>> > > >> not as
>>> > > >> > bad as the previous toner, which is now sitting behind
>>> > the
>>> > > >> printer if
>>> > > >> > anyone cares to recycle or throw it out.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > I've gone ahead and created a new section in the
>>> > Network page on
>>> > > >> the
>>> > > >> > wiki which deals with Network devices and services.
>>> > There are
>>> > > >> links to
>>> > > >> > the Printers page and Music page.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > --
>>> > > >> > Rubin Abdi
>>> > > >> > Rubin at Starset.net
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > _______________________________________________
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>>> > > >> >
>>> >
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>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Rubin Abdi
>>> > > > Rubin at Starset.net
>>> > > >
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