[Noisebridge-discuss] Junk units, a donated random junk organizational guideline proposal for 83c
jim
jim at well.com
Tue Nov 18 05:40:52 UTC 2008
+1 with cheers and wild applause.
per your penultimate remark, i disagree: i propose
that there are no comments or suggestions or negative
criticisms and that we adopt this as our junk policy.
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:40 -0800, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> This started off as a reply to the Printer thread, but it's gone
> wayyyy off topic now. My apologies if this sounds disjointed and
> rather long winded. See this as a meta solution to a physical problem.
>
> By using the word junk I'm talking about stuff that is found on the
> street, pulled out of someone's closet or dumped into our laps by a
> random company doing house cleaning, of which a *current purpose* for
> that/those items isn't apparent or established or no one takes
> ownership. By ownership I mean if you bring it into the space and
> leave it out in the open (let's say on the hack or share shelf), not
> placed in a project box.
>
> Why am I bringing this up?
>
> A good example is the safe that was dragged into the space about a
> month ago. It was rather big, and heavy, broken, and locked. No label
> was placed on it as to what the intended purpose of said object was or
> if it was up for grabs within 83c. The night after it's arrival
> several boys dressed in black spent a hand full of time prying the
> safe door open, destroying a hammer while going at it, only to find
> it's inners empty. The safe then remained, broken hearted and sad, on
> the floor near the Northern wall for about a week or two. No purpose,
> no spoken intentions from anyone to take ownership, something that had
> gone from junk status to trash status of which no one wanted to deal
> with anymore. Eventually Andy and I got extremely (fucking) tired of
> seeing it, we picked it up and removed it from the space. Thus ending
> the saga of the safe at 83c that was totally (in my humble opinion)
> pointless to have in the first place.
>
> From my observations of the space since it opened, and my previous
> experiences being a teenage electronics pack-rat living with my mom,
> the issue with getting stuff donated to the space is going to turn
> into more and more of a bigger problem of dealing with space and crap
> disposal in the near future. I propose that we put into place a system
> that deals with junk units...
>
> * If something comes into the space and doesn't have a place to live
> (i.e. with the tools, or with the spools of solder, or in someone's
> project box), it is deemed as a junk unit.
> * Only members are allowed to bring in junk units, if you're not a
> member and would like to bring in some units (as you think it's a
> great idea), find a member to co-sign for you, like via email.
> * Junk units *must be labeled* with the date of which they entered the
> space, optionally the person(s) who brought the unit in could throw
> their name(s) on it, just in case someone would like to know where it
> came from or the story behind said unit. Recommend that labeling
> should happen with a sharpie right onto the unit itself, as it saves
> paper and is harder to fudge up.
> * A place for junk unit storage and organization is established (we
> already have that, the hack/share shelves).
> * Junk units *MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER* with all the other junk units (we
> currently don't do that 100% of the time as there is junk *EVERYWHERE*
> on many of the shelves both on the first and 2nd floor).
> * Anyone is free to take a junk unit away from the junk storage area
> and use it for whatever they want or stuff it into their project box.
> If parts are removed from the unit, the remaining parts should be
> dated and placed back in junk storage.
> * If a member brings junk in OR utilize/grab any junk from storage,
> you must be an excellent member by dedicating some time to do some
> housekeeping when needed (see next bullet).
> * Housekeeping! On a set schedule (weekly?) and when one feels the
> need to, a review is done on most/all items in junk storage. If the
> date on the unit is moldy and stale (let's say two weeks) it is then
> labeled as "outbox" and tossed into the outbox (see next bullet). If
> during this time any members doing the review find something they
> think needs one more chance (two more weeks), that member should cross
> off the old date and put down the current date. The old date should
> not be removed as to give a way of tracking how many 2nd chances a
> unit has been given.
> * Outbox! Junk getting ready to be removed from the space sits in an
> outbox (shelf?) for a few days, last chance to grab it before it's
> gone! Items in here are only allowed to go into someone's project box
> and not allowed back into the junk shelf. If you really think the
> space should use it, it had time. If you really want it you better
> take it or find a home for it, the junk storage doesn't want it anymore!
>
> These guidelines/rules I just proposed here, what does this all do? It
> makes it harder to pack rat stuff as a group.
> * By keeping dates on things and forcing housecleaning on it all, it
> requires the mass/group to concisely remind themselves that this junk
> still exists. As opposed to bringing junk into the space then never
> caring about what happens to it, or how it effects the space ever
> again. We have to in turn put effort into having junk still continue
> living in the space. This prompt people be like like holy shit this
> has been here for months for sure, time to go!
> * It gives the open option of having people take ownership when they
> feel a junk unit is still something valuable to the space. I keep on
> hearing of how printers and scanners contains some amazing parts.
> That's great! If you feel that religious about it but don't want to
> keep 3 dead scanners and 2 broken printers in your project box, strip
> what parts you think others can use, store them along with all of our
> other parts and materials that get used in the shop and remove the
> rest of it from the space. I have a bunch of filthy broken tents from
> Burning Man that I'm sure someone could use the fabric from for random
> projects. The space isn't going to progress if (each time someone asks
> WTF IS THIS NASTY HIPPIE SHIT TAKING UP SPACE?) I defend the need to
> keep this crap there on the off chance that someone at some unknown
> point in time in the future MIGHT end up using any of it.
> * Establishing a place where junk should be kept, so that others can
> have room on the (loads) of shelves we have. I would like to take the
> frames that I donated to the space a month ago which no one has
> grabbed yet and place them in a project box on a shelf to use in the
> next month. I don't have a project box or a shelf to put it on because
> there's way too much crap all over the shelves that no one wants to
> deal with and/or clean off.
> * A holding place is created for things we know for SURE that we'd
> like get the hell out of the space. Less time is taken into scrounging
> around shelves for trash and more time put into figuring out where to
> take trash unit X to get recycled.
>
> If you've gotten this far in reading this, thanks. I'd appreciate
> comments, discussion and constructive negative feedback. Depending on
> what I hear here I'm willing to make a cameo appearance at the meeting
> on Tuesday, to pitching these guidelines to the group.
>
> --
> Rubin Abdi
> Rubin at Starset.net
>
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