[Noisebridge-discuss] key access for non-signers

[Rubin Abdi]

10 PRINT "Fuck politics."

Hi there, I like pie and in line replies.

I was originally opposed to dabbling my fingers into the politics of  
this group via email, as email is in my opinion a shitty way of  
pulling discussion gone South back up to something positive (as in it  
normally doesn't work and everyone goes home crying and pissed). If I  
wasn't tired right now I'd search up the image of that kid winning the  
special olympics, though I'm pretty sure I'd be in some sort of  
copyright violation and get my ass kicked by a bunch of Canadians.

Anyhow...

On Oct 2, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Noah Balmer wrote:

> For the record, so am I.  I want to see everyone who's part of  
> noisebridge have a key to the noisebridge space.  The problem is  
> that right now there is no legal entity of noisebridge, and the  
> legal position of the lease signers isn't that great.  Hopefully  
> tomorrow this will no longer be an issue.

I totally understand your point of view, as well as Rachel's. The  
issue that I'm seeing (and others) simply is that there was no request/ 
proposal to retract the decision made Tuesday night about giving keys  
to everyone (and also keeping a list of who got one, etc). What I saw  
was that someone from their position saw a fault in that decision and  
opted to act on that without starting some sort of group council.

Looking at the current subject matter, bluntly putting it if Rachel's  
initial email was worded out more to, as an example, "Hi, I feel I've  
made a mistake with how I felt on giving keys to everyone. I feel it's  
a bad idea until we're registered. May I please ask that we don't give  
out keys until we can have a discussion about this and either resolve  
my issue which I'm presenting here, or agree on a new decision?" I  
don't think there would be much of a problem here.

Instead what I read (translated from text on the screen to thoughts in  
my head) was, the short of, "Hi, I feel I've made a mistake with how I  
felt on giving keys with everyone. I feel it's a bad idea until we're  
registered. At this point in time since I'm legally tied to the lease  
I am *politely* demanding that any other key holders not to give out  
keys until we are registered."

So, I am very much in line with the opinions of folks from both sides  
of the fence. I think everyone having access (with some sort of  
moderation/note taking, etc) is great. I also feel that everyone's ass  
should be covered if needed. What I see creating static over the  
bridge (*knee-slap*) is the fact that this was brought up and action  
was immediately enforced, there was no discussion about it (with just  
board members or members in general), and by taking action some folks  
assume this to be a sign of utilizing power.

Suck.

Anyhow we're here. We've learned a thing or two. My recommendation to  
anyone who feels like they are butting heads to possibly schedule some  
time to meet up off of the list in person and discuss why this is such  
an issue, and better ways to approach it. Once again I'd link to the  
kid winning the special Olympics, but I wont waste time and move onto  
my major own fucking issue here.

Stop wasting time folks. This is a rather trivial hiccup. This is very  
much a three legged race. When you fall, if no one wants to get back  
up the group will stay down. Someone has to start getting up for this  
to work. Learn and continue on.

> I don't want to work for people who don't want my help.   
> Backstabbing is not necessary.

Please excuse me being a total fucking douche bag (as it's going to  
sound just like that), but mind me legitimately asking the very  
innocent question of, what have you contributed to NB? I'm bad with  
names and faces. It would be nice to know because I don't want to  
automagically label you as "that dude on the list that made no  
rational sense to me about his views and opinions in regards to this  
group." I feel that everyone around Tuesday night has giving something  
to the group and it would be nice to not know them as faceless bitchy  
talking heads.

This email is now much longer then I originally intended it to be.  
Hope that you've taken your grain of salt, I look forward to working  
with you, the reader, in the near future on something kick ass, etc,  
thanks.

GOTO 10

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Rubin Abdi
Rubin at Starset.net