[Noisebridge-discuss] Objections to Airport Express for Airtunes?

[Rubin Abdi]

Replying to multiple things here as it's apparent people don't  
actually read whole emails on this list before hitting reply-all.  
Amazing! Initiate bitchy Rubin trying to not be bitchy filter, GO!

Firstly it's not hard to feed the audio output from the Airport  
Express into the input on the Jukebox machine and balance the two out.  
We could also setup a cheap analog mixer, we could setup a mixer which  
one could access through a web interface or SSH, we could splice the  
cables together with a fucking knife and mad  
soldering^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H duct tape skillz. As it turns out  
computers and technology in most cases can coexist, go science!

On Oct 13, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Jeff Keyzer wrote:
> What about mpd?  I have it running on a wireless router as a  
> portable radio, it seems well suited to making an open source jukebox.

It's already setup, search the wiki and you'll find some info about  
how to dump music to it, etc. Airtunes provides an alternate solution  
to those who don't want to futs around with making their music library  
available to another machine.

On Oct 13, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
> I don't want to set up my laptop every time I want to listen to  
> music -- Im much more likely to be doing *something else* in the  
> space than computer work.

Cool, there's totally a jukebox already setup, you still need to get  
onto a machine and interact with the web interface for said jukebox,   
be it your own computer or someone else's. Haven't you been to the  
space in the past week to check it out? It's all the rage!

> Plus, this doesn't give the oportunity for me to put something into  
> the playlist after whatever's already playing, thus seamlessly  
> taking over the music or even playing with someone else.

This is a completely valid statement! I'm sure most of the members  
would totally be in the boat on figuring out who to do this with the  
already setup jukebox system *cough*which already plays music and is  
implemented and can remain implemented along side my Airtunes  
suggestion*coughcoughhackcough*.

This past Saturday night / Sunday morning Ed and I were at the space,  
I was sleep depraved. pvck asked if we wanted to put some music on  
because the album he was playing started to loop. I'm like, "sure  
let's fucking throw on some Kettel". pvck directed us to the jukebox's  
url. Ed and I spent 5 minutes looking at it and give up, no way in  
hell we were going to deal with getting our music libraries dumped  
onto that machine then have it chug for an hour updating its db. The  
argument of "Im much more likely to be doing *something else* in the  
space than computer work" can be used here too. I'm sure many members  
are completely happy dealing with this. I know at some point in time I  
will be too. That night wasn't it.

Now this is how Airtunes works if you have your music library handy  
and are running iTunes (I would really love to have a count on how  
many of us use Macs for our next mailing list food fight):
1. Open laptop.
2. Start iTunes.
3. Select an output speaker, be it the laptop or Airtunes on the  
network.
4. Play generic pop song.
5. Take a shot of rum and fucking dance.

This is how Airtunes works if you don't have your library handy:
1. Stand in the corner and cry.

As you can see, both solutions work together fine and cater to  
different users. If I come in one night and nothing is playing, I'm  
going to start playing through Airtunes. If people are already in the  
space playing music, when the request for someone else to bump  
something comes up, I'll ask if I can stream to Airtunes. NOT A  
PROBLEM, unless I'm really drunk and am actually secretively looking  
for a fist fight, in which case I'll start playing the Willy Wonka  
sound track over whatever the jukebox is playing.

> In addition to which, I have more music than can fit on my laptop's  
> harddrive, and I'd rather have it at the space where I can play it  
> than be limited to whatever I happen to have downloaded recently.
>
> I'm strongly in favor of a jukebox solution.

That's beyond great man, because guess what, there's a jukebox  
solution waiting for you at the hunting den inside 83c, just ready to  
get its juicy pawns on some fucking fresh beats!



Why does it seem like every suggestion tossed into the list here is  
read off by others as a replacement to already implemented solutions  
and not as an option that can live side by side with what we've got?  
Overly comical example I illustrated in the channel in order to bring  
a smile to your face at the end of this long and terrible email...

- Initial email: Hey kids, we got this totally fucking awesome  
playground, I get carpet burns on the slide, anyone mind if I add in  
one of those merry go round things were you can totally crack one of  
your arms off with?
- Reply 1: Fuck horses, we want ponies.
- Reply 2: I like the god damn slide, don't get rid of the slide.
- Reply 3: Merry go rounds are the shit, fuck your religion.
- Reply 4: Dude, we should install a slide, it would be great if we  
had a slide, why don't we already have a slide?
- My reply back: I'm sorry, I didn't know I typed out the sentence,  
"let's replace the slide with the merry go round, the slide can go to  
hell" in my email with invisible ink, next time I'll be more careful  
with what I don't say or mean. Oh look a cake!

--
Rubin Abdi
Rubin at Starset.net