[Noisebridge-discuss] Heating without electricity + watt/hour meter

[Vlad Spears]

It's not random fire from the installation I would be concerned  
about.  That should be fine.  I think the "random fire in noisebridge"  
might go something like this:

"It's pretty warm here by the stove, but not all the way over by the  
far side where I want to sit."

"I know!  Let's build a supplementary stove from cpu casings lined  
with tinfoil and crushed kitchen tile, and move some of the fire over  
there with an old hard drive platter."

"Brilliant!  If this works out, we can put it on top of the dark room!"

Vlad




On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Martin Bogomolni wrote:

> There's nothing "random" about the installation of a pellet burning
> stove.  Installing one in San Francisco requires permits, proper
> ventilation and ductwork installed by qualified contractors, etc.
>
> There are also regular "burn bans" in San Francisco to preserve air
> quality, usually on the coldest days of the year.  So just when you
> want to burn the most, you can't.
>
> Six of one, half a dozen of the other, it's pretty economical, but a
> pain in the butt to install one.
>
> -Martin
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>  
> wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> There was some discussion about having propane heat, specifically  
>> so that we
>> can get people who want heat to fund heat on a very atomic level.   
>> We have
>> been leaning against it because of fire hazards; specifically, we  
>> have an
>> extensive sprinkler system, so even a small fire problem can turn  
>> into a
>> huge water problem.
>>
>> I just see a huge potential problem with random fire in noisebridge.
>>
>> --S
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Kevin Warnock <kevin at warnock.com>  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my first post to this discussion group. I'm not a member,  
>>> but I've
>>> visited about a dozen times so far.
>>> I have been reading about the electric bill issues. I have a watt- 
>>> hour
>>> meter I could let the Noisebridge borrow for a while, so the  
>>> lights could be
>>> tested. The meter will calculate the price to run the lights as  
>>> well,
>>> because you can program the electricity rate into it.
>>> Separately, has any thought been given to installing a wood pellet  
>>> stove
>>> for heat? The pellets are much less costly per btu than electric  
>>> heat
>>> produced... I think half or a third as much. The pellets can be  
>>> ordered by
>>> the truck load, and since there is a freight elevator, they can be  
>>> brought
>>> up to the third floor. Another advantage is that the rate per  
>>> pound goes
>>> down when you buy more, not up like with electricity, at least  
>>> that's the
>>> way residential electricity works... not sure about commercial  
>>> electricity.
>>>  A single pellet stove will heat the entire Noisebridge to a toasty
>>> temperature if desired, and would only have to be filled every few  
>>> days I
>>> think. I think the flu can exit through a wall. I have no personal
>>> experience with pellet stoves, but I do have experience with wood  
>>> stoves,
>>> and they produce a LOT of heat... I would guess the heat of 20+  
>>> electric
>>> space heaters when they are burning a full load of wood.
>>> The pellets are about 1/2' long and a 1/4" in diameter.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> --
>>> Kevin Warnock
>>> (415) 661-5600
>>> Blog: KevinWarnock.com
>>> Website: gOffice.com
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shannon Lee
>> (503) 539-3700
>>
>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
>>
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