[Noisebridge-discuss] Heating without electricity + watt/hour meter

[Martin Bogomolni]

There's nothing "random" about the installation of a pellet burning
stove.  Installing one in San Francisco requires permits, proper
ventilation and ductwork installed by qualified contractors, etc.

There are also regular "burn bans" in San Francisco to preserve air
quality, usually on the coldest days of the year.  So just when you
want to burn the most, you can't.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other, it's pretty economical, but a
pain in the butt to install one.

-Martin

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> There was some discussion about having propane heat, specifically so that we
> can get people who want heat to fund heat on a very atomic level.  We have
> been leaning against it because of fire hazards; specifically, we have an
> extensive sprinkler system, so even a small fire problem can turn into a
> huge water problem.
>
> I just see a huge potential problem with random fire in noisebridge.
>
> --S
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Kevin Warnock <kevin at warnock.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is my first post to this discussion group. I'm not a member, but I've
>> visited about a dozen times so far.
>> I have been reading about the electric bill issues. I have a watt-hour
>> meter I could let the Noisebridge borrow for a while, so the lights could be
>> tested. The meter will calculate the price to run the lights as well,
>> because you can program the electricity rate into it.
>> Separately, has any thought been given to installing a wood pellet stove
>> for heat? The pellets are much less costly per btu than electric heat
>> produced... I think half or a third as much. The pellets can be ordered by
>> the truck load, and since there is a freight elevator, they can be brought
>> up to the third floor. Another advantage is that the rate per pound goes
>> down when you buy more, not up like with electricity, at least that's the
>> way residential electricity works... not sure about commercial electricity.
>>  A single pellet stove will heat the entire Noisebridge to a toasty
>> temperature if desired, and would only have to be filled every few days I
>> think. I think the flu can exit through a wall. I have no personal
>> experience with pellet stoves, but I do have experience with wood stoves,
>> and they produce a LOT of heat... I would guess the heat of 20+ electric
>> space heaters when they are burning a full load of wood.
>> The pellets are about 1/2' long and a 1/4" in diameter.
>> Hope this helps.
>> --
>> Kevin Warnock
>> (415) 661-5600
>> Blog: KevinWarnock.com
>> Website: gOffice.com
>>
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> Shannon Lee
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