[Noisebridge-discuss] Mattel Mindflex

[Jean Rintoul]

Ooh I just meant to use it to measure heart rate changes which can tell you
a lot about the person's mental state. No neural feedback there.

But yeah, I agree. OpenEEG is the cool but there are too many other things
that are cool as well!

Jean

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn't know you could use Pulse Oximeter for (neural) biofeedback --
> how do you use it?    Of course I think the openEEG thing is a great
> idea, although I'm starting to get the feeling I need to be picky
> about projects to launch/get invovled with at noisebridge or I will
> have to move in there :)
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Jean Rintoul <jean.rintoul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I don't think those guys released the SDK but I could be wrong.
> >
> > There are big debates about releasing the raw EEG in all of the products
> for
> > no good reason, which is a bit inconvenient. They'd all need some careful
> > alterations... like maybe custom drivers and whatnot.
> >
> > There are tons of other cheaply available biofeedback things like GSR and
> > Pulse Oximeters which seem interesting too.
> >
> > Maybe Noisebridge could improve/continue OpenEEG?
> >
> > Jean
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow the ocz neural doohickey is really comparitvely cheap -- I think I
> >> appreciate the differences as to what the emotiv product is trying to
> >> do in terms of learning a brain pattern, but... Would the neurosky or
> >> ocz products be good platforms to take the hardware and write your own
> >> software for more complicated uses?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Jean Rintoul <jean.rintoul at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Yeah I've tried it.
> >> > It is an incarnation of Neurosky's contribution to the BCI market.
> >> > Emotiv
> >> > and Neurosky were both at last years GDC and we had tried each other's
> >> > products. All processing is done in hardware, and it appears to only
> be
> >> > an
> >> > alpha wave detector. There is no training machine-learning component.
> >> > You
> >> > can select what you want your meditative state to trigger, be it
> killing
> >> > cute animals, or setting things on fire(examples they had).
> >> > http://www.neurosky.com/products/mindflex/
> >> >
> >> > Very simple. Hence their ability to bring it to market so quickly.
> >> >
> >> > Also tried this one:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz_peripherals/nia-neural_impulse_actuator
> >> >
> >> > It's a bit better, but very much affected by mains noise. Still,
> limited
> >> > in
> >> > what it can pick up and not many electrodes(this one is trainable). It
> >> > also
> >> > looks a little like some kind of 80's head band... not that there is
> >> > anything wrong with that...
> >> >
> >> > http://vadim.oversigma.com/Emotiv/Emoraptor.mpg
> >> >
> >> > Jean
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Has anybody heard anything definite about the Mattel Mindflex?  Or,
> >> >> better yet, gotten their grubby little mitts on one?
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/01/06/mattel_mindflex/
> >> >>
> >> >> It looks like a fun sort of toy, going back to everyone's fascination
> >> >> with EEGs and brainwaves.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Josh Myer   650.248.3796
> >> >>  josh at joshisanerd.com
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