[Noisebridge-discuss] 224 12th

[Geoff Schmidt]

On Tuesday, some members asked me to set up a showing of 224 12th,  
the .65/ft office-ish space in soma. I tried to get something together  
for Thursday but there were problems coordinating with TRI, the  
landlord's broker. So it'll probably be Monday or Tuesday of next  
week, circa 7pm. If you want to see the space and can't make it, reply  
offlist with your constraints.

To set expectations, 224 12th should be in better shape (walls go to  
the ceiling, floors in decent condition, etc) but I suspect it'll feel  
like midlist office space instead of a blank h4x0r canvas. It's also a  
bit smaller, 80% of the size. On the other hand, the buildout  
contemplated at 2169 Mission is easily $50k+ if done in any way  
approaching legal[*], and lots of time. If 224 12th is already divided  
in an acceptable way it might be worth considering.

To be clear: I am setting this up because I was asked to do so. I'm  
not a member and am not advocating for any direction by the group; I  
just want to make what/who I know available to such Noisebridgers as  
may want it.

geoff

[*] Some notes here: If you build stuff without permits, the fine is 9  
(IIRC) times what the permit fee would have been, often reduced to 3  
times the permit fee on appeal. The permit fee's a few thousand  
dollars, but that's not the bad part. The bad part is that the city  
can make you tear everything out and rebuild it, so that they can  
inspect the interiors of the walls before the drywall goes on and such  
things. When work is done with permits, it needs to be done by  
licensed, insured, bonded contractors, with a few exceptions, and must  
be to code. It is not feasible for amateurs to get licenses, but we  
have friends with licenses. Clearly work is done all the time without  
permits, but it is a risk in a space open to the public for events.