[Noisebridge-discuss] Build Team Progress

[Christie Dudley]

A couple of points:

Floors should be done before we move into the space, or at least as
much floor as space we're going to use.  You really can't work on it
with people walking on it.  And while I am also of the school that
floor sanders are BIG FUN, I also think they're a BIG MESS, so we'd
need to plan accordingly.  I refinished the floor in my house the year
before I sold it, so had quite a bit of fun with this.  I think there
is really only 1 spot where a section of the floor need to be
completely replaced, in front of the bathroom.

As for finishing the shop... have you ever been to those automotive
places that look so bright and spotless?  It's because they have
everything sealed up tight so it's not difficult to hose down / mop
up.  If we are sloppy on finishing of "dirty" places, then they'll
just get really bad and stay there.  I am willing to bet that the
chem/bio people would definitely not like that.  I'd advocate having
dirty areas *more* finished than other areas.

Christie

PS I should have known Shannon would be into ripping out walls.

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM, jim<jim at well.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 16:10 -0700, Sai Emrys wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Shannon Lee<shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>> > Water damage is, I understand, something we're having the landlord take care
>> > of; although having someone catalog it and take ownership of making sure it
>> > happens would be good.
>>
>> This sounds like more a negotiation task than a get-shit-done task, at
>> least for first pass.
>>
>> > I am pretty sure we're just talking about roughness and ugliness -- renting
>> > orbital sanders and slopping urethane around, that sort of thing.
>>
>> Hm. One thing to consider of course is that we needn't do the entire
>> space. Rough work rooms, for example, probably don't need the
>> prettification.
> JS: sealing them tends to get rid of the risk of grodiness
> (worst case: blood poisoning from a splinter or fall) and
> also makes it much easier to clean things up (e.g. metal
> filings, spills).
>
>>
>> I think it'd be neat to have in the lounge / disco areas, maybe some
>> in the clean work areas, but I'm meh on whether it's worth the effort
>> / expense. And of course it'd mean we'd have to be a bit more careful
>> with those areas, which I suspect people will find to be a pain.
> JS: no need to be more careful anywhere. just have at
> in the usual way and a year or two later, smear on
> another coat where it's needed. don't get caught up
> with too much prettification.
>>
>> Is there any way - or need - to fix the unevenness / sagging? I don't
>> have the requisite construction knowledge, but as a layman it seems
>> that the floors are sagging between posts (which I'm guessing means
>> that there are support beams between the posts as well, under the
>> floor). The floor *seems* solid enough, but it makes me slightly
>> uneasy.
> JS: probably not. either the floors are worn down, and
> the fix would entail replacing planks, or their actually
> sagging, and the fix would entail redoing structure
> underneath.
>>
>> Another potential would be to put something on top of the current
>> flooring. If that something is variable-depth (like sand or cement
>> with tiling / linoleum / etc), then we'd both correct the unevenness -
>> by filling it in to be level - and not have to deal with sanding the
>> wood, just with putting some other nice surface on top. One drawback
>> is it'd be heavier, so more stress on the floor support structure. But
>> again, I don't know whether this method actually exists, is feasible,
>> or is a good idea; I'm just thinking in terms of raw physical
>> manipulation.
> JS: there are various concrete types meant for floors,
> but they're expensive, and you're right about the weight;
> up side they're very good as a fire barrier. my guess is
> that we live with the sags and droops.
>
> Seems to me easiest to demo the place and then do the
> floors when stuff is mostly out of the way rather than
> do floors after walls and partitions and such are up
> and in the way of a long straight sanding run.
>>
>> - Sai
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