[Noisebridge-discuss] unannounced groups of non-members at Noisebridge (esp. kids)

[San Mehat]

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:02 PM, grey <artkiver at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, I think I've made clear constantly how much I despise mailing lists.
>  This was talked to death on irc as a more realtime discussion on Friday and
> further in person @ the space on Friday.  Dredging this up again four days
> later?  I would be tempted to just let this die the death it deserves; but
> figure I should contribute my two cents since it's coming up -again-.
> Remember, we explicitly attempt to not solve problems before they happen.
>  If you get Ani's first person account of the visiting class, she's told me
> that not only were the interested and well behaved, but they were more
> respectful of her request that they not touch anything on the shelves moreso
> than "adults" visiting from NYC and LA.  I've yet to hear anyone state that
> the visiting kids caused any problems at all.
>
> I am all about having fewer policies rather than adding to them; we've had
> unannounced parties visiting before and just because one (well behaved)
> group stopped by that contained kids apparently that set off flags for some
> people who take issue (at least one of whom has openly stated that they did
> not like kids).  Now, whether a particular member has a problem with a
> particular type of guest; I respect their autonomy to decide for themselves
> their own preferences; but getting worked up over these preferences when
> there was no actual issue at hand is creating a mountain out of a molehill.
>
> Naturally I'm biased, as Al alluded to; I'm a parent of two and they've
> both been by the space before some of the complaining members had ever even
> heard of the place.
>
> So, unless you seriously want to propose a policy to prohibit kids; or
> large groups coming by unannounced which I and other parents (and even non
> parents who actually want to see young interested minds coming by the space)
> realize you've got more than a few people who are ready to exercise that
> limited power of blocking on consensus.  The people who want to put policies
> in place are at a disadvantage in general; and I'm making this explicitly
> clear in this case so hopefully we can all shut the fuck up and talk about
> useful and interesting things that have nothing to do with policies.
>
> Like, HOW AWESOME WAS MAKER FAIRE?
>

Or how about when is the next pie mission to Mission Pie?


> Or... what a great party and turnout we had last night with a ton of people
> who had never been by the space before; it was perhaps the best evening I've
> had at noisebridge since its inception.
>
> Or.... hey the June 13th Electronics Flea Market is coming up on us fast -
> let's organize a road trip for interested members!
>
> http://www.electronicsfleamarket.com/
>
> Look at that - three topics of conversation that have nothing to do with
> talking about policies which a portion of our membership will make sure
> WON'T happen so we should stop wasting more time and breath on it because
> it's just beating a dead horse.
>
> -grey
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:43 PM, aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> How about something stating that large groups should call ahead and let us
>> know they are coming? Then we'll know who it is and be able to adjust the
>> setting accordingly.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jason Dusek <jason.dusek at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  I also have to wonder if it's not a little abnormal for
>>>  schools to make unannounced visits like that. In fact, we
>>>  might mention that we have an explicit policy requiring
>>>  notice for educational/institutional groups.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Dusek
>>>
>>
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